$5.50 NLHE MTT: FT bubble with AK

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Around 4th at that time. The chip leader has been 3betting a lot pre and taking it down.
Considering ICM what's the play??

partypoker - 0/0 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 104.96 BB (VPIP: 38.27, PFR: 36.25, 3Bet Preflop: 28.00, hands: 85)
SB: 8.49 BB (VPIP: 23.13, PFR: 16.88, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 168)
BB: 68.82 BB (VPIP: 34.02, PFR: 29.17, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, Hands: 102)
Hero (CO): 27.42 BB

4 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has Ac Ks
Hero raises to 2 BB, BTN raises to 5 BB, fold, fold,
 
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I'm getting it in there with AK. Good spot to build a very nice stack heading into the final table. If we win without a call its a good bump up also. Especially against aggro chipleader I'm happy to get it in and :fight:
 
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This is a great spot to shove, doing anything else would be a mistake.
 
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Im getting it in here also but not sure Im getting it all in preflop, but as long as you stick to the plan of getting it it,

RR=13-14bb/call off or if called, shove any flop
 
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i think shove pre flop is the best option in this situation.
 
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I think ICM would say flat this 3 bet pre flop. With SB being so short, AA, KK and AKs are all ins, if I remember correctly.


Flatting 5 BB pre flop make the pot around 13 BB with 22 BB behind.


It is bad that you are out of position, but I do not think that you can correctly 4 bet fold or 4 bet shove or 4 bet call off here
 
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AK all in

I think Against this player the best play would be all in he most likely has nothing good and is going to loose the hand I think all in is the only option here can't get much better hand than that other than pocket pairs here
 
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I think ICM would say flat this 3 bet pre flop. With SB being so short, AA, KK and AKs are all ins, if I remember correctly.


Flatting 5 BB pre flop make the pot around 13 BB with 22 BB behind.


It is bad that you are out of position, but I do not think that you can correctly 4 bet fold or 4 bet shove or 4 bet call off here

I agree. If the SB weren't so short stacked shoving would be a much more easier choice.
 
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Just flat call that 3-bet. Considering ICM, SB has such a small stack, and when it is 4 handed, blinds will eat that stack in 10hands. That is how long you need to survive for a pay jump. If the button would go all in, instead of raising to 5BB, it would be a clear fold. If you were the shortest stack, it would be a clear shove.

I suggest watching Laplante's video about a similar situation of his on a final table.
link:
 
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Shove. Like others have said, it's very likely he doesn't have anything and is bullying the table. Also if he decides to call light due to his stack/thinking you are trying to catch him, he'll have A(x) a lot and you'll be dominating his range.


You can't turn down a spot like this to get a 50bb+ stack going into a FT with such a strong hand, IMO.
 
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If he is playing correctly he's suppose to attack your stack a lot. That shortstack in sb just gives him more reasons to attack your raises. Its a shove and not even close.
 
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Remember any hand and I mean any hand even 32o has like 35% against you. AKo is the most overrated hand in all of hold'em. That said I'd probably do a big raise as it looks stronger than a shove. Or just call likely check fold check raise seeing the flop.

AKo is a really overated hand. I walked home from tourney often with it.IMO its not even top 13 hand.
 
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Remember any hand and I mean any hand even 32o has like 35% against you. AKo is the most overrated hand in all of hold'em. That said I'd probably do a big raise as it looks stronger than a shove. Or just call likely check fold check raise seeing the flop.

AKo is a really overated hand. I walked home from tourney often with it.IMO its not even top 13 hand.

You really need to start all over again. God forbid someone takes this seriously.
 
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It's a jam. Your're blocking lots of Ax and Kx combos and are favorite to all his broadway stuff he's playing. And flipping tons too. Rare that you're way behind here. You'll have two ways of winning - preflop or at showdown. It could also slow him down a bit with his relentless 3 betting.
 
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It's a jam. Your're blocking lots of Ax and Kx combos and are favorite to all his broadway stuff he's playing. And flipping tons too. Rare that you're way behind here. You'll have two ways of winning - preflop or at showdown. It could also slow him down a bit with his relentless 3 betting.



I think the same but I would not slow down without a position.
 
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Im pushing in this situation. If wild card makes the call so be it. More likely than not you are ahead and will grow a sizeable sum
 
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JAM!! The fewer players that are at the table, generally speaking, the greater the strength of a strong hand. On top of that hes the chip leader so his range is much greater. And when it comes to playing the bubble, playing too cautiously often times will cost you any chance at a win. If you wont play AK, what hands are good enough to 4bet? In order to win tournaments you have to be aggressive and play strong hands strongly. If you had more chips it would be a different story. Say you had 60 BB. You could safely take a flop with 60 BB in the stack without risking too large a percentage of your stack. 5 BB is only 8 percent of your 60BB stack. But in the real situation, 5 BB is 5/27 <= 19 percent of stack and out of position, making a fold on the flop the safest play without an A or K hitting. It will always be unnerving playing on the bubble but if you play too cautious playing on the bubble you will be exploited by the chip leaders trying to bully. Reraising all-in is the best move
 
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