$5.50 NLHE MTT Bounty: Did I 3bet this correctly???

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Pogo been showing a slight broad hand range. I 3bet, hoping this was good enough to throw away his range, but after his initial x3BB raise, and my 3bet, it's not enough for him at all.......so my question, was my 3bet enough? and how do you feel about that Ace hitting the turn and then his bet? Did I **** up?:confused::confused::confused: thanks

Game started at: 2017/1/6 23:21:59
Game ID: 814344671 150/300 THR Friday Night LIVE Redux!, Table 3 (Hold'em)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: mrlaufer (5040).
Seat 2: Quicklime89 (7695).
Seat 3: PHillyPHever (4044).
Seat 4: RadioWade (4816).
Seat 5: KINGOFMOUNTAIN (7399).
Seat 6: lolpogolol (15782).
Seat 7: steveo2003ac (9840).
Seat 8: ZauzyDumpling (9413).
Seat 9: FlopIt2Me77 (5971).
Player FlopIt2Me77 ante (30)
Player mrlaufer ante (30)
Player Quicklime89 ante (30)
Player PHillyPHever ante (30)
Player RadioWade ante (30)
Player KINGOFMOUNTAIN ante (30)
Player lolpogolol ante (30)
Player steveo2003ac ante (30)
Player ZauzyDumpling ante (30)
Player FlopIt2Me77 has small blind (150)
Player mrlaufer has big blind (300)
Player FlopIt2Me77 received a card.
Player FlopIt2Me77 received a card.
Player mrlaufer received a card.
Player mrlaufer received a card.
Player Quicklime89 received a card.
Player Quicklime89 received a card.
Player PHillyPHever received a card.
Player PHillyPHever received a card.
Player RadioWade received a card.
Player RadioWade received a card.
Player KINGOFMOUNTAIN received a card.
Player KINGOFMOUNTAIN received a card.
Player lolpogolol received a card.
Player lolpogolol received a card.
Player steveo2003ac received a card.
Player steveo2003ac received a card.
Player ZauzyDumpling received card: [Ah]
Player ZauzyDumpling received card: [Qh]
Player Quicklime89 folds
Player PHillyPHever calls (300)
Player RadioWade folds
Player KINGOFMOUNTAIN folds
Player lolpogolol raises (900)
Player steveo2003ac folds
Player ZauzyDumpling raises (1800)
Player FlopIt2Me77 folds
Player mrlaufer folds
Player PHillyPHever folds
Player lolpogolol calls (900)
*** FLOP ***: [9c 7c 7h]
Player lolpogolol checks
Player ZauzyDumpling checks
*** TURN ***: [9c 7c 7h] [Ac]
Player lolpogolol bets (5100)
Player ZauzyDumpling allin (7583)
Player lolpogolol calls (2483)
*** RIVER ***: [9c 7c 7h Ac] [9s]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 19786. Rake 0
Board: [9c 7c 7h Ac 9s]
Player mrlaufer does not show cards.Bets: 330. Collects: 0. Loses: 330.
Player Quicklime89 does not show cards.Bets: 30. Collects: 0. Loses: 30.
Player PHillyPHever does not show cards.Bets: 330. Collects: 0. Loses: 330.
Player RadioWade does not show cards.Bets: 30. Collects: 0. Loses: 30.
Player KINGOFMOUNTAIN does not show cards.Bets: 30. Collects: 0. Loses: 30.
*Player lolpogolol shows: Full House (7/9) [5c 7s]. Bets: 9413. Collects: 19786. Wins: 10373.
Player steveo2003ac does not show cards.Bets: 30. Collects: 0. Loses: 30.
Player ZauzyDumpling shows: Two pairs. As and 9s [Ah Qh]. Bets: 9413. Collects: 0. Loses: 9413.
Player FlopIt2Me77 does not show cards.Bets: 180. Collects: 0. Loses: 180.
Game ended at: 2017/1/6 23:23:21
 
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Bit hard too read. Anyway, yes, this 3-bet is a tad too small. There's some merit to 3-betting small in position with your SPR, but I think you wanna go around 2.5x+ his raise. There's also an argument for flatting his raise. AQs has a lot of playability and you can trap pretty well. What do you do when you 3-bet and he shoves on you? You kinda have to call, but you aren't that happy about it.

Hard to get away on the turn. Not a lot of 7s in his range. Considering he puts in 6 blinds pre with 75o he has a lot of ace-rags he plays this way too, and you're dominating those. If you had a read on him based on his bet sizing here (which is pretty weird considering the pot) maybe you could fold, but the call is okay here. Tough to lose against fish.
 
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I'm making it 2.4-2.7k pre, jamming is also fine as well. Postflop is completely standard.
 
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Winning Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 150/300 Blinds (9 handed) - Winning Poker Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB (t5,040)
UTG (t7,695)
UTG+1 (t4,044)
MP1 (t4,816)
MP2 (t7,399)
MP3 (t15,782)
CO (t9,840)
Button (t9,413)
SB (t5,971)

Preflop:
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t300, 2 folds, MP3 raises t900, 1 fold, Button raises t1,800, 3 folds, MP3 calls t900

Flop: (t4,350) 9
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, 7
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, 7
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(2 players)
MP3 checks, Button checks

Turn: Ac (t4,350) (2 players)
MP3 bets t5,100, Button raises to t7,583 (All-In), MP3 calls t2,483

River: 9s (t19,516) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t19,516

Results below:
Button had A
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, Q
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MP3 had 5
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, 7
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(full house, sevens over nines).
Outcome: MP3 won t19,786

Try using http://www.pokerhandsreplayer.com/ to convert hands when asking for analysis.
 
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Given Pogo's perceived medium-high variance play up to this point, and the fact that he has opened with a 3B raise, I think my first instincts preflop would have been to simply flat call or possibly shove; however, you have a healthy chip stack so you are not in a position to where you have to commit your chip stack unnecessarily preflop--so I would have probably flat called with A Q. It might also depend on his preflop bet size tendencies up to this point. After the turn card comes up an Ace and pogo places an over-sized bet like he did, it's really looking like he is trying to steal the pot so you're in a tough spot. My first thoughts are, though, given his range maybe has hit his Ace rag, or something, and now has aces up, or maybe he has a set, so I might have just given up A Q at this point. Again, you have a decent chip stack so you can wait for an even better spot.
 
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You play very well the hand. It's impossible to read that he has such cards after the 3-bet. It's not logical to steal the pot with such cards. With the all in I would probably figure that he had AK or AQ just like you or a flush.

Maybe the overbet on the turn made the difference in the hand. You've got a big aggressor. I assume that he probably would just call the turn raise in order to make a slow play. This is the only way to survive such a dangerous hand. Sometimes the good position could be tricky.
 
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Ofc preflop 3bet and defense your positions. Your 3bet in this is too small. I play 3bet in this to 2700.
 
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But whats with the raise to 900??? How is my 3bet not large enough with him holding 57off??? Did he donk or am i the fish??
 
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He should never raise 75o from the hijack (especially after a limper), nor should he be calling any 3-bet OOP. That doesn't matter for your 3-bet sizing though - in this case, it's indeed preferable to 3-bet more than you did.

Wouldn't call you a fish based on this, though.
 
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But whats with the raise to 900??? How is my 3bet not large enough with him holding 57off??? Did he donk or am i the fish??


I think your sizing was way too small here, definitely. You made 900 to call into a 3720 pot, less than 1-4, you made a profitable call for him with ATC (AQs holds 65% equity against a random hand, you gave him 10% free equity plus implied odds). You gave him much better odds to call your ace high than you should.

Let's say you flatted this pre flop and nobody else called behind (not even the UTG). Pot would be 2820, with you having ~8.5k chips behind. Pot was way too juiced up after a limp and a slight oversized raise he made pre flop. You failed to realize the pot geometry. This pot would end up committing your stack with any action of more than a single round of betting/calling even if you flatted your AQ and nobody else called.

In this spot, I personally contemplate either shove or flatting. I don't think my post flop game is that strong, so I'd either get everything in pre with a hand that crushes villain's range (and probably even his calling range) or play a very very very small pot post flop that I'm never concerned of crying calling/shoving because I'm pot comitted.

You played well post flop, though.
 
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I do not understand what you want to say or to discuss
 
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