$5.50 NLHE MTT: $5.50 NLHE MTT: Pocket 2s ISO pre, this is a cooler right?

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Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 300/600 NL - Holdem - 9 players
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UTG: 3.96 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, hands: 30)
UTG+1: 16.81 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 21.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 22.68 BB (VPIP: 23.02, PFR: 15.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.30, Hands: 957)
Hero (MP+2): 89.56 BB
CO: 62.09 BB (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 35)
BTN: 0.32 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
SB: 24.29 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 48.93 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has 2<font color='red'>♥</font> 2<font color='black'>♣</font>

UTG raises to 3.83 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6.67 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 5.67 BB

Flop: (18.79 BB, 3 players) 2<font color='red'>♦</font> 5<font color='red'>♦</font> 6<font color='red'>♦</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 12.53 BB, BB calls 12.53 BB

Turn: (43.85 BB, 3 players) J<font color='red'>♦</font>
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (43.85 BB, 3 players) 8<font color='red'>♦</font>
BB bets 29.61 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG shows A<font color='black'>♠</font> K<font color='black'>♣</font> (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 73%, Flop 81%, Turn 85%)
BB shows A<font color='red'>♥</font> 8<font color='black'>♠</font> (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 27%, Flop 19%, Turn 15%)
UTG wins 6.56 BB
BB wins 37.29 BB


min-raised to iso pre with the chip lead in the tournament with about 120 left and about 60 paid

got called. bet the monotone flop for value. we get value from diamond draws, redrawing to the full house for huge reverse implied odds if he makes a flush. and we can also sometimes get some better pocket pairs to fold. im thinking its really hard for him to call without any diamonds. so unless he's flopped the flush (roughly 10% of combos vs the 30% of combos with a one card flush draw)

on the turn we just check-give up

is there any argument for calling this river bet? I know we chop a lot, but I literally any diamond has us beat. even if BB is full of crap, theres still a huge chance that UTG has a diamond and then we're calling to maybe chop the side pot which just seems worse than awful
 
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Standard. By checking back turn, you get to realize full equity of your hand (set, with fh opportunity), but you also give information that you rarely have a diamond therefore allowing him to bluff you off made hands (such as set of 2s).

Alternatively you could bet thin on turn and turn your hand into a bluff. If he calls, he should check or jam most rivers making your river decision easier (check or fold). If he folds no big deal, nice pot. If he raises, easy fold.
 
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Standard. By checking back turn, you get to realize full equity of your hand (set, with fh opportunity), but you also give information that you rarely have a diamond therefore allowing him to bluff you off made hands (such as set of 2s).

Alternatively you could bet thin on turn and turn your hand into a bluff. If he calls, he should check or jam most rivers making your river decision easier (check or fold). If he folds no big deal, nice pot. If he raises, easy fold.

Hey welcome to the forums tim.

for the most part I agree, I will say I dont like turning a hand this strong into a bluff because he doesnt really fold many better hands. I think thats overall a -EV play.

I dont think this opponent knows me, some of my opponents know that I would be checking back the flush here almost always, so while plenty of players might see that as a greenlight to bluff, it wouldnt be correct for them.

I think you're absolutely right that checking back the turn we get to realize the maximum equity. thats a great point, thanks! :D
 
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Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 300/600 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 3.96 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 30)
UTG+1: 16.81 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 21.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 22.68 BB (VPIP: 23.02, PFR: 15.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.30, Hands: 957)
Hero (MP+2): 89.56 BB
CO: 62.09 BB (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 35)
BTN: 0.32 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
SB: 24.29 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 48.93 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has 2<font color='red'>[emoji813]</font> 2<font color='black'>[emoji814]</font>

UTG raises to 3.83 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6.67 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 5.67 BB

Flop: (18.79 BB, 3 players) 2<font color='red'>[emoji815]</font> 5<font color='red'>[emoji815]</font> 6<font color='red'>[emoji815]</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 12.53 BB, BB calls 12.53 BB

Turn: (43.85 BB, 3 players) J<font color='red'>[emoji815]</font>
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (43.85 BB, 3 players) 8<font color='red'>[emoji815]</font>
BB bets 29.61 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG shows A<font color='black'>[emoji812]</font> K<font color='black'>[emoji814]</font> (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 73%, Flop 81%, Turn 85%)
BB shows A<font color='red'>[emoji813]</font> 8<font color='black'>[emoji812]</font> (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 27%, Flop 19%, Turn 15%)
UTG wins 6.56 BB
BB wins 37.29 BB


min-raised to iso pre with the chip lead in the tournament with about 120 left and about 60 paid

got called. bet the monotone flop for value. we get value from diamond draws, redrawing to the full house for huge reverse implied odds if he makes a flush. and we can also sometimes get some better pocket pairs to fold. im thinking its really hard for him to call without any diamonds. so unless he's flopped the flush (roughly 10% of combos vs the 30% of combos with a one card flush draw)

on the turn we just check-give up

is there any argument for calling this river bet? I know we chop a lot, but I literally any diamond has us beat. even if BB is full of crap, theres still a huge chance that UTG has a diamond and then we're calling to maybe chop the side pot which just seems worse than awful



I personally liked the way you handled the hand. Pre iso with a hand that would not play very well post flop as well as pot controlling on the turn and keeping the value of your hand.

I have not observed many bluffs from an opponent that are involving with a pot with one player all-in pre flop and he is battling for the side-pot. Because, he must show his whole cards and he knows that the other players would adjust their plays for the rest of the tournament based on that. I believe you did a correct fold.
 
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you were in position against BB. A simple preflop call would be the best move. reraising to 6BB represents a big hand not 22. try to keep the pot small when you are risking like this. check call for the rest of the hand would be my choice.
 
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Playing the hand the same way except going 8-9bbs pre and 1/2 pot on the flop.
 
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Oo, why you dont C-bet on the turn? BB can call with 78s or A5s, A6s 77-TT without dimonds.
 
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Oo, why you dont C-bet on the turn? BB can call with 78s or A5s, A6s 77-TT without dimonds.

I think that just makes up such a small part of his range, its better to realize my Equity drawing to the FH
 
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I'm folding here myself. I don't how many times my trips have been flushed down the drain.
 
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