$5.5 NLHE MTT Bounty: What do you think about how I played this hand?

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Stacks:
UTG emmiaek93 (62,840) 45bb
CO jja1222 (135,279) 97bb
BTN jamitindry (152,506) 109bb
SB Tupicca232 (33,930) 24bb
BB Hero (30,790) 22bbBlinds: 700/1,400 Ante 140
Pre-Flop: (3,501, 5 players) Hero is BB A:heart: A:club:

1 fold, jja1222 calls 1,400, jamitindry raises to 4,200, 1 fold, Hero calls 2,800, jja1222 calls 2,800

Flop: 5:heart: 10:heart: 8:heart: (14,701, 3 players)
Hero checks, jja1222 bets 6,300, jamitindry raises to 12,600, Hero goes all-in 26,450, jja1222 goes all-in 124,639, jamitindry folds
Turn: 9:spade: (184,690, 2), 2 all-in

River: 5:club: (184,690, 2), 2 all-in
Final Pot: 184,690
Hero shows
A:heart: A:club:
jja1222 shows
9:heart: 10:diamond:
jja1222 wins 208,978 (net +73,699)
Hero wins 79,500 (net +48,710)
jamitindry lost 16,940

I wanna know too, What do you think about how the villan plays in this hand.
 
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I don´t like your call preflop with AA. If you raised it pre-flop, there would probably be less villains to play against. My favorite play here is going allin and trying to make a resteal, you have the perfect stack to make this kind of play and a call just makes your life harder to play in the next streests because there will be more villains.

About the villain, i think he played really bad here. He did not have a very good hand and he just risked too much going allin here, because he would only get called by hands he was loosing against.
 
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Smallest stack against a reraise with A,A. I'd shove preflop here.
 
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You should have raised pre flop. And all the shitty hands would have mucked
 
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I don´t like your call preflop with AA. If you raised it pre-flop, there would probably be less villains to play against. My favorite play here is going allin and trying to make a resteal, you have the perfect stack to make this kind of play and a call just makes your life harder to play in the next streests because there will be more villains.

About the villain, i think he played really bad here. He did not have a very good hand and he just risked too much going allin here, because he would only get called by hands he was loosing against.

Completely agree with Alex, 22BB is not really a comfortable spot, so an all in was the best move probably hoping for 1 call and a double up.

Villain play an awful hand, the only thing I can think from his side is:
villain has 97 BB pretty good, will try and bully lower stacks, he makes top pair with a flush, and since you only called pre, he could have thought you were only defending your BB

Or there is a lot of maniacs that will call regardless of the strength you show preflop or if your tight just because they have a lot of chips.

Did the villain was playing loose everytime? a lot of raises? stealing the blinds?

If he was, the shove was the perfect move! good luck next time man :)
 
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Whenever I try to get cute with Aces, I get bitten. So im always looking to get them all in and if someone wants to do something about it they can. If not Im okay with the blinds. I ALWAYS raise it from whatever position im in. If I get 3 bet its all going in. I dont want to give 6d8d odds to call my 4 bet. If you want that flush you're gonna have to earn it.
 
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I like everything about the way you played this hand.

Yes, 3betting preflop is a good option and sometimes you should do that, but you must also flat with your monsters sometimes...not just to "mix it up" so that you're not predictable, but it's often the highest EV play if you think somebody is just stealing you'll make more money by flatting and letting them fire. depends on villain type, basically. If you have ANY indication that this villain is just trying to isolate/steal then flatting will be more +EV.

It would be ideal if the CO had raised a little bigger to make the limper more likely to fold, (as we'd like to be heads up in a bigger pot with hands like AA) but things won't always be perfect at the poker table.

that's a pretty good flop for us. Not perfect but certainly good enough to play for stacks, should it come to that.

I believe that going for the check raise is best because you have basically no fear of giving free cards (no overs to your pair, and hearts are good too). Leading out will often shut down the bluffing that your opponents might do. When you check-raise you will sometimes get looked up by worse draws, which is obviously an amazing result.

the CO played fine pre....I mean a little ambitious but he's got the stack and position so it's OK.

on the flop I think he spazzed and went crazy. yeah, top pair is good and he has an emergency flush draw in case you have like a set or 2 pair or something....but basically by getting it in here he will basically always be facing either a made flush, an overpair with a flush draw, or a set. he went cu-koo.

then he got bailed out by the deck on the turn....dam

but you hit one of your re-draws! yay! It's important to notice that if you bricked all your redraws on the river, you would still have played the hand very well.
 
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You should have raised pre flop. And all the shitty hands would have mucked

why is that a good result? Why do we want all the bad hands to muck when we have a strong hand? we want action, right? we want to win the poker tournament, yes? if your primary goal while playing is to never get sucked out on, you'll lose a TON of value.
 
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BAD PLAY ON PREFLOP!!
You should shove on preflop, I don't understand why you just call with AA?? If I was at your place, I would bet all-in on preflop!
 
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I guess the flat is ok preflop, but personally I 3bet because I have no idea of what the limp range from the limper is, but the call is not wrong. Post flop I guess I would play pretty the same, you have overpair and nut draw, theres no reason to be scared and the check/raise puts a lot more pressure on them than the lead
 
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I like everything about the way you played this hand.

Yes, 3betting preflop is a good option and sometimes you should do that, but you must also flat with your monsters sometimes...not just to "mix it up" so that you're not predictable, but it's often the highest EV play if you think somebody is just stealing you'll make more money by flatting and letting them fire. depends on villain type, basically. If you have ANY indication that this villain is just trying to isolate/steal then flatting will be more +EV.

It would be ideal if the CO had raised a little bigger to make the limper more likely to fold, (as we'd like to be heads up in a bigger pot with hands like AA) but things won't always be perfect at the poker table.

that's a pretty good flop for us. Not perfect but certainly good enough to play for stacks, should it come to that.

I believe that going for the check raise is best because you have basically no fear of giving free cards (no overs to your pair, and hearts are good too). Leading out will often shut down the bluffing that your opponents might do. When you check-raise you will sometimes get looked up by worse draws, which is obviously an amazing result.

the CO played fine pre....I mean a little ambitious but he's got the stack and position so it's OK.

on the flop I think he spazzed and went crazy. yeah, top pair is good and he has an emergency flush draw in case you have like a set or 2 pair or something....but basically by getting it in here he will basically always be facing either a made flush, an overpair with a flush draw, or a set. he went cu-koo.

then he got bailed out by the deck on the turn....dam

but you hit one of your re-draws! yay! It's important to notice that if you bricked all your redraws on the river, you would still have played the hand very well.

Thanks for the detailed answer, and I agree with you, with premium hands we can take some risks in order to obtain more value.
 
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With a stack like that, you play poorly on the preflop, almost lost to a villain with a bad hand.
 
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Rarely am I going to flat pre here, however if the ISO raiser is overly agg/has a high fold to 3B and high cbet% then flatting is fine here. Vs a tighter opponent, shove pre.

Postflop is standard, don't post the results of hands you want analysis on fwiw.
 
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3 bet pre. never call wih aces. Always raise & re raise.

Pre flop you should definitely 3 bet. around 2.5-3 times the original raiser for me. If you did that the big stack would've not tagged in for the flop and likely the other would tag in. I'm guessing he's got something like Ace high.
After the flop the villain hits a card and he's got you well covered. When you got all in, he's got very good pot odds and has hit top pair (for him). So he's gonna continue most of the time.

Slow rolling aces is not a good thing. Specially in a MTT. You'll likely get sucked out by a drawing hand hitting a straight or a flush or a two pair.
 
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I like everything about the way you played this hand.

Yes, 3betting preflop is a good option and sometimes you should do that, but you must also flat with your monsters sometimes...not just to "mix it up" so that you're not predictable, but it's often the highest EV play if you think somebody is just stealing you'll make more money by flatting and letting them fire. depends on villain type, basically. If you have ANY indication that this villain is just trying to isolate/steal then flatting will be more +EV.

I agree with missjacki here. I like how you played this, and 3betting preflop is something I may do a sometimes but it's better to create more value here with the best possible hand imo. And you got your money in with the best hand and won a nice pot! Well done
 
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No Limit Holdem Tournament
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Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
Stacks:
UTG emmiaek93 (62,840) 45bb
CO jja1222 (135,279) 97bb
BTN jamitindry (152,506) 109bb
SB Tupicca232 (33,930) 24bb
BB Hero (30,790) 22bbBlinds: 700/1,400 Ante 140
Pre-Flop: (3,501, 5 players) Hero is BB A<font color='red'>♥</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font>

1 fold, jja1222 calls 1,400, jamitindry raises to 4,200, 1 fold, Hero calls 2,800, jja1222 calls 2,800

Flop: 5<font color='red'>♥</font> 10<font color='red'>♥</font> 8<font color='red'>♥</font> (14,701, 3 players)
Hero checks, jja1222 bets 6,300, jamitindry raises to 12,600, Hero goes all-in 26,450, jja1222 goes all-in 124,639, jamitindry folds
Turn: 9<font color='black'>♠</font> (184,690, 2), 2 all-in

River: 5<font color='black'>♣</font> (184,690, 2), 2 all-in
Final Pot: 184,690
Hero shows
A<font color='red'>♥</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font>
jja1222 shows
9<font color='red'>♥</font> 10<font color='red'>♦</font>
jja1222 wins 208,978 (net +73,699)
Hero wins 79,500 (net +48,710)
jamitindry lost 16,940

I wanna know too, What do you think about how the villan plays in this hand.

Simply, you are strategicaly underdog. You didn't show how big was your bounty. For nice bounty many bounty players with 4.5 : 1 ratio in stack will call your all in.
So, we have two conclusions:
1.) you are lucky beacuse pair is on the table and busted opponents two pairs
2.) you almost lost because guy with bad cards buy 2 pairs.
My opininon that guy was not villain, but ordinary bounty player.
And AA are not gods, because you and him buy 5 cards, and this is gambling, not pure 100% pure math predictions.
 
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