$4.40 NLHE MTT Bounty Turbo: Good fold?

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PokerStars - 40/80 Ante 10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 33.22 BB (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, hands: 35)
UTG: 36.25 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG+1: 40.74 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: 55.11 BB (VPIP: 91.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP+1: 37.5 BB
CO: 43.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: 69.7 BB (VPIP: 31.43, PFR: 11.43, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 35)
Hero (SB): 43.61 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 5:heart: A:heart:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, MP calls 1 BB, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (7 BB, 6 players) Q:spade: A:spade: 5:diamond:
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets 1 BB, MP calls 1 BB, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, UTG calls 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, MP+1 calls 2 BB

Turn: (19 BB, 4 players) T:club:
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, MP+1 bets 33.37 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold

MP+1 wins 19 BB

What do you guys think? It is a bounty tournament.
 
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You should have gone up much more on the flop. You practically gave them the fourth card. Any player who has a serious color project or ladder hands as KJ also pay that bet size. Knowing that you have the best hand at that moment, the correct thing would have been to bet on the strong flop to take away the odds needed from your opponent. At least, that's how I would have done it. The fold is fine in that situation and how you played the hand until that moment.

Personally I would have paid, the All-in in that situation shows that I did not want the hand to continue playing, since some of those cards have seemed threatening, so you can have top pair, or double pair, Q and T are in your rank too. It is a difficult decision, the fold is not bad either. I like to pay in these situations because your rival usually expects you not to do it
 
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You should have gone up much more on the flop. You practically gave them the fourth card. Any player who has a serious color project or ladder hands as KJ also pay that bet size. Knowing that you have the best hand at that moment, the correct thing would have been to bet on the strong flop to take away the odds needed from your opponent. At least, that's how I would have done it. The fold is fine in that situation and how you played the hand until that moment.

Personally I would have paid, the All-in in that situation shows that I did not want the hand to continue playing, since some of those cards have seemed threatening, so you can have top pair, or double pair, Q and T are in your rank too. It is a difficult decision, the fold is not bad either. I like to pay in these situations because your rival usually expects you not to do it

Great analysis mate. I did realize the bet on flop was weak. Thanks for your reply.
 
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You should definitely raise bigger on the flop.
When a player makes a big overbet shove on the turn against three people it's weird but I think it's very likely that he has two pair. Straight could shove too hoping to get called in a bounty tournament, and a hand like J9 of spades is possible too, but I think it's most likely that he has two pair.
You beat QT and lose to AT which are two most likely hands. Even if he has KJ you still have 4 outs for the bounty, so I would probably call.
 
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Because its bounty I'd call here. They can have so many hands that you beat. Why shove? If they are very strong, I'd expect a value bet. not a shove. Furthermore, their shove does not cover either you or MP, so it really makes no sense (if they were bounty hunting).

Also as mentioned previously- much bigger reraise on flop. You have a monster hand. You want to thin the field to one player and extract value. All Ax, possible flush and possible straights will pay at least another 2bb if not more to see another card. This also give a chance for them to do something stupid and shove or reraise you on the flop (10sKs, AxKs, Js10s etc).
 
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Yes, I can see it now. Definitely, I will re-raise bigger in the flop. Thank you all.
 
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is it just me or is this the type of flop you should be raising on the flop first? there is so many pairs and weak aces/flushdraws that will call the flop.. the way it was played was quite weak on the flop should have raised at last 6bb. and im calling shove on turn. KJ AQ and sets beat you but with limps pre im not ready to put anyone on those holdings.
 
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The analyzes are of great value and form of learning!
 
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I think Q-10 makes a lot of sense there. The pot was a little bigger by then, maybe a call is profitable there against limps.
 
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In my opinion his hand looks like straight. Probably with bloker on flash and he is trying to get call from set, flash draw with pair of aces and maybe two pairs.
Also he might have set of aces. Your fold is ok.
 
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Very deep understanding of the game.
 
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good analysis so far. I agree that you should have raised bigger, but on the turn you also should have continued with bet, I don't understand why you didn't bet. As played call.
 
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