$4.40 NLHE MTT Bounty: Is this a call?

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We are ITM. Considering the other V is also coming for the ride is this call considering the bounties & pot odds? The turn was a scare card for me.

pokerstars Hand #175611899978: Tournament #2039828793, $2.00+$2.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (600/1200) - 2017/09/14 5:05:00 IST [2017/09/13 19:35:00 ET]
Table '2039828793 47' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Monstercat#9 (16671 in chips, $5 bounty)
Seat 2: wooooww (15070 in chips, $4 bounty)
Seat 3: Oskarvit777 (17658 in chips, $3.50 bounty)
Seat 4: hellaswm (14729 in chips, $3 bounty)
Seat 5: TUSUR FET (24443 in chips, $3 bounty)
Seat 6: RudyBee123 (46250 in chips, $7 bounty)
Seat 7: Alucard5077 (22784 in chips, $9 bounty)
Seat 8: bbbbmmmmwwww (18422 in chips, $2 bounty)
Seat 9: Artemov242 (13309 in chips, $11.75 bounty)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Alucard5077 [2h Qd]
bbbbmmmmwwww: folds
Artemov242: folds
Monstercat#9: calls 1200
wooooww: folds
Oskarvit777: folds
hellaswm: calls 1200
TUSUR FET: calls 1200
RudyBee123: calls 600
Alucard5077: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c Qc 4d]
RudyBee123: checks
Alucard5077: checks
Monstercat#9: checks
hellaswm: checks
TUSUR FET: checks
*** TURN *** [2c Qc 4d] <font color='black'>3♣</font>
RudyBee123: bets 2400
Alucard5077: calls 2400
Monstercat#9: calls 2400
hellaswm: folds
TUSUR FET: folds
*** RIVER *** [2c Qc 4d 3c] <font color='red'>9♥</font>
RudyBee123: checks
Alucard5077 is disconnected (lol)
Alucard5077 has timed out while disconnected
Alucard5077: checks
Monstercat#9: bets 4800
RudyBee123: raises 37700 to 42500 and is all-in
Alucard5077: ??
 
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I mean this almost has to be the nuts right. He's not raising 2 pair or probably even a set here. The only thing you beat from Rudy is air which is just so unlikely. Is he really going bet turn, raise shove river into turn callers with nothing? Like is he just going crazy cause he missed his naked ace of clubs flush draw? Idk. Also you have no bounty value here both the players started the hand with more chips than you so you can't knock any of them out.
 
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Think on these terms

We are ITM. Considering the other V is also coming for the ride is this call considering the bounties & pot odds? The turn was a scare card for me.

PokerStars Hand #175611899978: Tournament #2039828793, $2.00+$2.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (600/1200) - 2017/09/14 5:05:00 IST [2017/09/13 19:35:00 ET]
Table '2039828793 47' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Monstercat#9 (16671 in chips, $5 bounty)
Seat 2: wooooww (15070 in chips, $4 bounty)
Seat 3: Oskarvit777 (17658 in chips, $3.50 bounty)
Seat 4: hellaswm (14729 in chips, $3 bounty)
Seat 5: TUSUR FET (24443 in chips, $3 bounty)
Seat 6: RudyBee123 (46250 in chips, $7 bounty)
Seat 7: Alucard5077 (22784 in chips, $9 bounty)
Seat 8: bbbbmmmmwwww (18422 in chips, $2 bounty)
Seat 9: Artemov242 (13309 in chips, $11.75 bounty)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Alucard5077 [2h Qd]
bbbbmmmmwwww: folds
Artemov242: folds
Monstercat#9: calls 1200
wooooww: folds
Oskarvit777: folds
hellaswm: calls 1200
TUSUR FET: calls 1200
RudyBee123: calls 600
Alucard5077: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c Qc 4d]
RudyBee123: checks
Alucard5077: checks
Monstercat#9: checks
hellaswm: checks
TUSUR FET: checks
*** TURN *** [2c Qc 4d] <font color='black'>3♣</font>
RudyBee123: bets 2400
Alucard5077: calls 2400
Monstercat#9: calls 2400
hellaswm: folds
TUSUR FET: folds
*** RIVER *** [2c Qc 4d 3c] <font color='red'>9♥</font>
RudyBee123: checks
Alucard5077 is disconnected (lol)
Alucard5077 has timed out while disconnected
Alucard5077: checks
Monstercat#9: bets 4800
RudyBee123: raises 37700 to 42500 and is all-in
Alucard5077: ??


He isn't bluffing, but what is he value betting? Set? Two pair? Straight? Flush? Why didn't he bet on the flop? Why did he bet 2400 on the turn in a pot of 6000 against 4 opponent? Why didn't he lead the river as he was the aggressor and rather choose to check/raise? If you think about it, the answer is there itself. Remember to take into account the bounty and the fact that you disconnected.

On a side note: In a limped pot, you make a great hand. Bet. Bet the flop.
 
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Ok so I made a mistake of not donking the flop. Was more focused in protecting the stack than making harsh decisions.

SB had Q8 off while the other limped with Aces. SB was going for the bounty. Very typical of these tourneys. Should've called
 
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Ok so I made a mistake of not donking the flop. Was more focused in protecting the stack than making harsh decisions.

SB had Q8 off while the other limped with Aces. SB was going for the bounty. Very typical of these tourneys. Should've called

It's not a donk-lead, its being the aggressor (it was a limped pot, remember?). Donk-lead is when you call a raise OOP and take the lead on flop/turn/river.

Anyways, hope you learnt to deduce it yourself. Or at least, understood what was happening in the hand.
 
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Yeah sorry I forgot it was a limped pot.
Bounties man! :D
 
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