$3 NLHE MTT: Nut Straight on paired board OOP

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 50/10/8

We get check raised min on the flop of TT8 w 97o from the BB. I called.

We hit our nut straight on the turn with the 6 and it checks through. Maybe I should lead here.

I check river, hoping V bets and he does.

Should we checkraise/fold in this spot or just call?

Note this is the micros, so somebody going crazy w Tx is conceivable.

Game started at: 2017/9/12 9:22:30
Game ID: 1005513673 20/40 $1,000 GTD, Table 1 (Hold'em)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Droidek (5540).
Seat 2: ladynit (4250).
Seat 3: Ruevar (4377).
Seat 4: VILLAIN (10172).
Seat 6: HOTCARDS123 (6980).
Seat 7: HERO (5645).
Seat 8: Iminthmood (2348).
Seat 9: Shovardar (6533).
Player HOTCARDS123 has small blind (20)
Player HERO has big blind (40)
Player HOTCARDS123 received a card.
Player HOTCARDS123 received a card.
Player HERO received card: [7s]
Player HERO received card: [9c]
Player Iminthmood folds
Player Shovardar folds
Player Droidek folds
Player ladynit raises (120)
Player Ruevar calls (120)
Player VILLAIN calls (120)
Player HOTCARDS123 calls (100)
Player HERO calls (80)
*** FLOP ***: [8d 10h 10c]
Player HOTCARDS123 bets (300)
Player HERO calls (300)
Player ladynit folds
Player Ruevar folds
Player VILLAIN raises (600)
Player HOTCARDS123 folds
Player HERO calls (300)
*** TURN ***: [8d 10h 10c] [6d]
Player HERO checks
Player VILLAIN checks
*** RIVER ***: [8d 10h 10c 6d] [4h]
Player HERO checks
Player VILLAIN bets (1050)

how many hands on the opponent? 50/10/8 - it is noticeable that this is a bad player...
"Maybe I should lead here." - Maybe)
"I check river, hoping V bets and he does." - it's very risky to check on the river, You can not get the chips on distance... but him AF=8, I think the game is worth the candles))
"Should we checkraise/fold in this spot or just call?"- I think yes... But if the opponent goes all-in: against a good opponent we throw out, against a bad opponent is likely to call, because weak players are sometimes able to overestimate their hand strength)

You wouldn't have enough chips to check raise and fold. I would shove all in in this spot or raise and call off. But a raise would be around half your stack so all in seems better and get max value.

I mean, it's hard to put V on a full house on that board. If there was a broadway card it would be much scarier. I think we have to assume we have the nuts, and shove for value here against a ten. Our hand is fairly disguised I think because we checked the turn, so I think we can check raise the river for value. If he has a full house then it's just a cooler I think.

Kurtimus said:

I mean, it's hard to put V on a full house on that board. If there was a broadway card it would be much scarier. I think we have to assume we have the nuts, and shove for value here against a ten. Our hand is fairly disguised I think because we checked the turn, so I think we can check raise the river for value. If he has a full house then it's just a cooler I think.

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I agree. This is the Micros and Villain is 50/10/8. He's loose passive and you should punish him for the lot. If he wakes up with a hand, so be it.
However, am I the only one that thinks this was his first mistake?
Player HERO calls (80)
I think this is an easy fold. The problem with this hand is you have no backdoor equity. If it was suited, then I'd be more likely to call depending on my STB ratio

rckstr2b said:

However, am I the only one that thinks this was his first mistake?
Player HERO calls (80)
I think this is an easy fold. The problem with this hand is you have no backdoor equity. If it was suited, then I'd be more likely to call depending on my STB ratio

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I agree this is a pretty loose call, even at 6:1, I'm not sure how we make a lot of money with 97o out of position. You never know, though, sometimes it pays to play weird hands.

Once it goes multiway and I finish the action 79o is fine to call. I need 13% equity to call.

Obviously you get put in tough spots like this one from time to time but that's OK.

I raised and got jammed on.

*** RIVER ***: [8d 10h 10c 6d] [4h]
Player HERO checks
Player VILLAIN bets (1050)
Player HERO raises (3150)
Player VILLAIN allin (8402)

I think we are good enough to call in this spot given pot odds but any views?

awesome said:

Once it goes multiway and I finish the action 79o is fine to call. I need 13% equity to call.

Obviously you get put in tough spots like this one from time to time but that's OK.

I raised and got jammed on.

*** RIVER ***: [8d 10h 10c 6d] [4h]
Player HERO checks
Player VILLAIN bets (1050)
Player HERO raises (3150)
Player VILLAIN allin (8402)

I think we are good enough to call in this spot given pot odds but any views?

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You may need 13% to call but this isn't a cash game. You only have a finite amount of chips. 79s, would've been better, then you have possible backdoor flush/straight.
Now, the flop gives you a medium strength draw. I'd try to get some pot control going. Might even check/fold in some cases.
The reason I usually would've folded pre is usually when you do hit the board it's going to be second pair in a multi-way pot that already is a big spr pot. Then your either bluffing or semi-bluffing to get out of the situation and that usually involves risking your tournament life.
Find better spots, especially deep stacked and 20/40 blinds.