$3 NLHE MTT: KK UTG

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 29/12/3.8

I was dealt KK and rasied 2.5x UTG. V1 in the Hijack 3b 3x. V1 has a 20% VPIP, 13% PFR, and 8% 3b. V2 w a 29% VPIP, 12% PFR, and 0% 4b cold calls on the button.

Do you jam KK here w the stack sizes or 4b and what sizing?

I 4b 3.1x and the 3bettor folded but V2 flatted.

Here's the action and flop:

Game started at: 2017/3/23 10:30:26
Game ID: 872195489 50/100 $1,000 GTD, Table 12 (Hold'em)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: benutiger (15317).
Seat 2: VILLAIN1 (3917).
Seat 3: ChipKellyIzGod (9758).
Seat 4: VILLAIN2 (9624).
Seat 5: alen_jr (2968).
Seat 6: noreallyimfine (5760).
Seat 8: HERO (9515).
Seat 9: PreshaDroppa (2885).
Player alen_jr ante (10)
Player noreallyimfine ante (10)
Player HERO ante (10)
Player PreshaDroppa ante (10)
Player benutiger ante (10)
Player VILLAIN1 ante (10)
Player ChipKellyIzGod ante (10)
Player VILLAIN2 ante (10)
Player alen_jr has small blind (50)
Player noreallyimfine has big blind (100)
Player HERO received card: [Ks]
Player HERO received card: [Kd]
Player HERO raises (250)
Player VILLAIN1 raises (750)
Player VILLAIN2 calls (750)
Player HERO raises (2000)
Player VILLAIN2 calls (1500)
*** FLOP ***: [7s 9d Jd]

Total Pot is 5480. We are at an SPR of 1.3 and V2 has us covered.
This is obviously a wet board.
Do you jam flop, bet small to induce, or check to induce? All are fair options against a V w and Aggression factor of 3.8.

Thanks for your help.
 
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4bet to 2,250.

Tank and check imo. You're going to look very weak by checking and players at this level don't understand pot control.

Betting 2k and calling a shove is the next best option, against competent opponents I would bet 2k.
 
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Stacks are a little interesting here. You have 4b to half of V1s stack. It's so small that if he does not call, clearly V2 will calll. I think that's the argument for making it bigger. I wonder what V1 does if we shove, since he folded to the 4bet. Shoving looks a little weaker in my opinion than 4betting, so maybe that's good for us given our hand. I wouldn't be too surprised also if V2 would call a shove since he cold called the 3b. I could see him having 88-QQ,AK, AQ here.
 
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4-bet is great preflop. Check is not an option on such board, because of a possible A in your opponents card. Yes, the flop is dangerous, because of the draws, but maybe 2/3 pot bet or a pot bet will show you what he is having. Probably he could be in with sort of TT or AT. J probably will have him calling and then it will be difficult to see what to do. With such a bet you could put away AK or AQ.
 
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I would check majority of the time to an aggressive player when I'm OOP and and overpair... He will prob stab at it with all of his draws and AJ or worse hands...

However, depending on the flow and my image I may lead flop and call off if I'm raised... Giving a free card on this board could lead to disaster. A diamond may kill our action and any str8 card could make his hand.
 
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I bet half pot to induce but V snap shoved.

Player HERO bets (2740)
Player VILLAIN2 allin (7364)

Any views? Regardless I don't think we have a lot of options at this point.
 
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This board is too wet to fold. Lots of draws from diamonds and QT. I also block QT's outs. I called.

Player HERO allin (4515)
Uncalled bet (109) returned to VILLAIN2
*** TURN ***: [7s 9d Jd] [8s]
*** RIVER ***: [7s 9d Jd 8s] [5c]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 19990
Board: [7s 9d Jd 8s 5c]
Player benutiger does not show cards.Bets: 10. Collects: 0. Loses: 10.
Player VILLAIN1 does not show cards.Bets: 760. Collects: 0. Loses: 760.
Player ChipKellyIzGod does not show cards.Bets: 10. Collects: 0. Loses: 10.
*Player VILLAIN2 shows: Three Of Kind of 7s [7d 7c]. Bets: 9515. Collects: 19990. Wins: 10475.

I shouldn't be surprised anymore at the micros but I was

I actually don't like my 4b sizing preflop. I should have clicked it back to give V1 the opportunity to jam and still have the option to 6b jam vs. V2. Once I move it to 2000, I no longer have this option.
 
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