$3 NLHE MTT: 4 bet sizing: Aggressive Player 3b on BTN

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We raise QQ in the HJ and have a relatively agro image.

We get min 3b by the BTN who has a 17% 3b and 50% 3b from the BTN.

Note that this is only over 63 hands.

What is your 4b sizing in this situation?

we are out of position which is usually 3-3.5x in my view but this would be more than 33% of V's stack which means all in.

so, click it back to induce? 2.5x? 3.5x? All in? or call and slow play?

views?

Game started at: 2017/8/30 10:51:43
Game ID: 996215307 100/200 $1,000 GTD, Table 10 (Hold'em)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: left right (8157).
Seat 2: presh37 (5550).
Seat 3: alkogamak (9402).
Seat 4: cj6464 (6277).
Seat 5: 1tsYourTurn (16296).
Seat 6: HERO (25039).
Seat 7: onyx5000 (4980).
Seat 8: Incierto (5515).
Seat 9: VILLAIN (9514).
Player left right ante (20)
Player presh37 ante (20)
Player alkogamak ante (20)
Player cj6464 ante (20)
Player 1tsYourTurn ante (20)
Player HERO ante (20)
Player onyx5000 ante (20)
Player Incierto ante (20)
Player VILLAIN ante (20)
Player left right has small blind (100)
Player presh37 has big blind (200)
Player left right received a card.
Player left right received a card.
Player presh37 received a card.
Player presh37 received a card.
Player alkogamak received a card.
Player alkogamak received a card.
Player cj6464 received a card.
Player cj6464 received a card.
Player 1tsYourTurn received a card.
Player 1tsYourTurn received a card.
Player HERO received card: [Qs]
Player HERO received card: [Qh]
Player onyx5000 received a card.
Player onyx5000 received a card.
Player Incierto received a card.
Player Incierto received a card.
Player VILLAIN received a card.
Player VILLAIN received a card.
Player alkogamak folds
Player cj6464 folds
Player 1tsYourTurn folds
Player HERO raises (440)
Player onyx5000 folds
Player Incierto folds
Player VILLAIN raises (1000)
 
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i would probable min bet in this positiion for max equity allowing the short stack to 5 bet u, keeping the aggr and the co, i can see him doing this with aj+ 22+ KQs. shoving all in and generating folds is also a great play for qq. free money is free money
 
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If he is a weaker player he fact that you raise around 33% when you 4bet doesnt come into play much.
When you 4bet him anywhere from 2.5x-3x lets say 2.7K he might think you are doing this light and 4bet all in with something like A5s, ATo whether when you shove he might just fold those hands.
If he is a stronger competent player i might just shove here cause it looks weaker.
When you min 4bet it just seems so nutted that he is never shoving anything less than JJ+ AK. When you shove it looks like you dont want to play postflop with something like AXs or 66-JJ.
 
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I was close to trent's number. maybe went a bit too big but adjusted for being OOP.

V folded.

Player HERO raises (3040)
Player VILLAIN folds
Uncalled bet (2480) returned to HERO
Player HERO mucks cards
------ Summary ------
Pot: 2480
Player left right does not show cards.Bets: 120. Collects: 0. Loses: 120.
Player presh37 does not show cards.Bets: 220. Collects: 0. Loses: 220.
Player alkogamak does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
Player cj6464 does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
Player 1tsYourTurn does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
*Player HERO mucks (does not show cards). Bets: 1020. Collects: 2480. Wins: 1460.
Player onyx5000 does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
Player Incierto does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
Player VILLAIN does not show cards.Bets: 1020. Collects: 0. Loses: 1020.
Game ended at: 2017/8/30 10:52:50
 
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