$3.30 NLHE MTT: Big 3.30 3-way flop with a huge draw

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ParasOsa

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-Semi deep in the big 3.30.
-Blinds at 3000/6000.
-I got 73k and open AKcc to 6000 utg +1. (my stats 20/14)
-Player with same stats as me, flats next to me with 83k stack.
-Big blind with 150k stack comes along

Flop JTcc3h (21k)

-Nut flush draw + gutshot to the nuts + 2 overs for me
-my SPR is 3.
-Big blind has been aggressive, the +2 position flatter not so much.

What's the play here?
I can come up with:
-40% pot CB and barrel any turn (could get awkward with my stack size)
-CR all in
-Overbet shove right away on the flop (probably gets too many folds and doesn't maximize EV, BUT the table is very soft and I would be happy to just take the pot down and keep playing solid)

What's the best line?
 
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Better to increase the pot at once. 50% pot CB. If they fold you lose nothing, as you got nothing now. If they re-raise - easy all-in - half of a deck of outs.
 
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Open to 6000? You mean you limped? BB is already 6k according to your post.

With 3 people in the pot and with only 10 BB behind, I'm happy enough to take it down on the flop, so betting big (3/4 pot), then jamming turn. With a bet of about 17k on the flop, you'll end up with just about a pot sized stack on the turn.

Although you trapped with a limp pre, so maybe you like to continue the sneaky game here. There are merits to both, depends on how sticky your opponents are, and their bluff frequncy.
 
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Looks like you limp not open, a open demands to be a raise and demands to be the first action.

a cbet of whatever size that you usually do is a right play here. You give the BB that you say is aggressive card a free check out on the flop, would be better regular 2x raise from pre flop. Although you had 12bb what is the size that I like to shove pre flop.
 
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My apologies. Blinds were 1500/3000.
 
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I personally don't like leading H.P (Ever) unless the players are (So sticky that I'm actually getting value by leading H.P Into them). With that being said, you could lead say about 8000/8888, or about 8999, some where In the range of less than H.P as H.P Is about 11K give or take, by leading small, you can check the turn and/or double barrel (depending on villain/villains In the hand) and how they normally proceed on turn.

Now If you get donked Into by either villain and/or CR on flop after leading Into them, than simple GII as you got enough outs to get you their
 
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I like going 1/2 pot here. Jam/barrel pretty much any turn.
 
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I like going 1/2 pot here. Jam/barrel pretty much any turn.

Here's the thing, assume OP leads HP on flop and gets 2 callers, than why are we gonna Jam Into 2 callers on the flop on turn with only river to come? I mean really that Is really hoping/reaching for the stars. What're you repping besides sets by taking such a line. I mean It clearly screams either set and/or massive draw. So why not take a less than aggressive line, and save yourself the hassle by "checking turn" If called by both players, and re-evaluating on river, assuming both players called your flop lead
 
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Here's the thing, assume OP leads HP on flop and gets 2 callers, than why are we gonna Jam Into 2 callers on the flop on turn with only river to come? I mean really that Is really hoping/reaching for the stars. What're you repping besides sets by taking such a line. I mean It clearly screams either set and/or massive draw. So why not take a less than aggressive line, and save yourself the hassle by "checking turn" If called by both players, and re-evaluating on river, assuming both players called your flop lead
QQ? KK? AA? AJ?
 
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I would check/raise flop and shove on any turn
 
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Preflop with 1500/3000 blinds okay. With 3000/6000 just push.
Flop bet 8000 or 9000.
Turn with blank - check/fold. A, or K, or Q, or Xc - bet around 18 000.
River blank - check/fold. River with nut - push.
 
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I hope I didn't missed it.
Might I ask what was the BBs move post flop? check or bet?

I guess under half pot would be my cbet if he checked.
Hard to read the BBs range. I would guess he's probably tagging along with some suited undercards to catch a dry board. Not an expert just my thoughts
 
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