$22 NLHE MTT: JTs and big draw on flop against 3 opponents

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It was 43th hand of PowerFest 22$ MTT, not much info about opponents collected. But i had already a small assumption about UTG was very loose aggressive player and BB was also pretty loose, but less than UTG tho. CO was much tigher than both others.
I know it was sort of loose steal raise by me from MP, but i had way too few good hands before (was pretty card dead) and mostly folded. So i decided it's time to use my tight image at the table and i raised my JTs. Unfortunately received three calls, but pretty strong draw hand on a flop too. Surely i have decided not to give up my draw hand and continued aggression even thought there were 3 opponents at flop. But things were going worse for me i get calls and turn doesnt help me. Then i have a big bet 2/3 pot from BB. On that point i wasnt really sure if i have enough odds to call that, but i decided to call. Then i have missed the river too of course. Would you play different on my place? If yes, how? Thanks in advance for all of your opinions!

partypoker - 250/500 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 91.44 BB (VPIP: 58.14, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 43)
UTG+1: 118.3 BB (VPIP: 32.56, PFR: 23.26, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 43)
Hero (MP): 73.94 BB
MP+1: 129.34 BB (VPIP: 25.58, PFR: 13.95, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
CO: 84.61 BB (VPIP: 16.28, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
BTN: 143.18 BB (VPIP: 13.95, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 43)
SB: 46.88 BB (VPIP: 20.93, PFR: 13.95, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 43)
BB: 112.31 BB (VPIP: 58.14, PFR: 20.93, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has J<font color='black'>♠</font> T<font color='black'>♠</font>

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB, UTG calls 2 BB

Flop: (13.3 BB, 4 players) Q<font color='black'>♣</font> 9<font color='black'>♠</font> 7<font color='black'>♠</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 5.5 BB, CO calls 5.5 BB, BB calls 5.5 BB, UTG calls 5.5 BB

Turn: (35.3 BB, 4 players) 5<font color='red'>♦</font>
BB checks, UTG bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, BB raises to 20.65 BB, fold, Hero calls 19.65 BB, fold

River: (78.6 BB, 2 players) 2<font color='black'>♣</font>
BB checks, Hero checks
 
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OMG I can't believe this is a $22 buy in tournament. Those stats all this aggression and all these limps. Why is that? Anyway..

This deep and with all these maniacs even the 3bet here seems no sense because they will continue to the flop either way. I maybe have called with my JTs. I like the post flop play, maybe a little bit larger because of the number of the opponents but definitely I would muck on turn after his reraise. You are gambling almost 35% of your stack with air. I would have called this amount if happened on the flop. Seems like he has a made hand and wants to protect it from draws. :)
 
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You were priced in to call the turn, but I would like to hear from someone better if it was possible to bluff the river or betting more on flop.
 
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@akmost, im not sure what 3bet youre talking about.

I would have raised larger pre. my standard open with effective stacks over 50bb is 3x + 1bb for every limper, sometimes ill open even larger if im trying to isolate the early position limper. i probably would have gone about 4.2bb preflop here. otherwise everyone and their mother acting behind you will have a great price to call.

on this flop board texture, I'm probably check calling the whole way down... they would yave to overbet by a mile to get incorrect calling odds. but theres no reason to build the pot unless you plan on bluffing here on a later street, but with this many players postflop and such great odds, I think bluffing would be bad. its best to just play the odds imo.

think sbout what youre trying to accomplish with this flop cbet.
 
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@mbrenneman0 I meant raise , my bad. Thanks for mentioning :)
 
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