$215 NLHE MTT Turbo: barreling then river my gutshot and get raised

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this is a live $215 turbo

blinds 75/150 no antes I have 22,000 (146bb)

avg stack is about 13k (87bb)

it folds to my HJ I have :js4::10h4: and open to 400

the button flats off a stack of about 15,000 (he's spewy, but thinks he's good so I like this call just fine)

Flop :ac4::qh4::8c4: (pot 1,025)

I've got a gutshot and he's really wide; so I Cbet for 500. he calls

Turn :qc4: I check with the intention of giving up if he bets. But He checks

River :9d4: BINK! (pot 2,025)

I lead 700 just trying to get called by an A or an 8 or he might even call with Khi, cuz again he is spewy and bad. He also might blast off with nothing if he views my bet as a weak blocker bet. but it's not my main goal to induce a raise, my main goal is to get called.

He raises, he throws out a 5k chip and I thought I heard him say $4,500 which is 1.6x pot so I was going to have to at least consider a fold....but then the dealer clarified it was actually a raise to 2,500.

This is a trivial call, yes?
 
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I guess the title is a misnomer. I wasn't barreling. I just Cbet once then rivered a gutshot.
 
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You have a double gutshot. If he really is a bad player i'd just call, if he is solid I would consider strongly folding.
 
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It will cost T1800 to call T5225 pot. You already have invested T1800. Your stack will be T20.2K (135BB) if you fold. If you call it will be T25.4K (170BB) if you win (i.e. he is bad enough to value bet a naked Q), T18.4K (122BB) if you lose.

You can "afford" to pay T1800 to see just how bad this guy really is, but do you have to? Could he be this spilly/bad? The answers to these questions determine your action (call costs 12BB).
 
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Not a trivial call for me.

If he "thinks he's good" then he's at least good enough to see the flush, straight, and full house possibilities on the board.
If he was bluffing, he shouldn't be offering you such attractive pot odds (26%). It feels like he wants a call.

It's hard to fold a straight when you are getting decent pot odds from a spewy player. Maybe he's got a Q, JT, or is bluffing on the cheap 28% of the time? Maybe?

This deep, at this buy-in, against this player as described, I probably talk myself into making this call, partly because I'm curious, I'm stubborn, and I don't respect my opponent. Bad reasons. But I don't think either a call or a fold is a major mistake.
 
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You are getting a good price to give a call there and your stack will not get hurt too much, and you will exploit villain in future hands as he will show his hand.

Now in respect of his range, he hasn't to many boats there imo.
AQ probably will 3b pre.
Q8 will probably 3b the flop.
So the only hand that makes sense is 88 and Q9 that beats you and slowplayed AA/QQ.
And you are beating all his Qx in his range.
So a call makes sense there.
 
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Pre-flop fold.
As played, c-bet on the flop standard, but you should go bigger. On the turn check is standard, you could continue to bluff if you had club in your hand. On the river I would bet bigger, you block straights, with flush he would bet turn at least some of the time and he could call you with A or Q. Bet around 60-70% of the pot. When he raises that small, it is insta call.
 
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I would be continue on the turn. Small. Fold to reraise.

If you checked turn, you should check/call river imo. No value in betting. Maybe a Q will call, but that's it (unless he is a weak player).

Now fold. Everything got there. If he bluffed on a paired board with a flush, kudos to him.
 
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I tanked and decided to call.

He showed Q6o and I’m pretty sure he was value betting.

Even though I won I’m not sure it was a good call.
 
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I tanked and decided to call.

He showed Q6o and I’m pretty sure he was value betting.

Even though I won I’m not sure it was a good call.
Hi

I believe it was a good call there because as I mentioned he isn't representing to many boats there and you beat all of his Qx.
And you have exploited him for future hands.

Q6o is way too loose.
At least Q6s and 3bet pre is more preferred by me.

Good luck at future tables!!!!
 
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