$215 NLHE MTT Bounty: Call or fold river?

It was first hour and just like 20 minutes in , I didnt have much reads, but for a PP major, with so many sattelite players it felt like a tougher table then on average,

I think till the river this is pretty standard, then the board runs out really shitty and I am facing a shove OOP vs my bettinglead holding two pair. Aces and Queens.
But what would you have done?


***** Hand History for Game 17066534094 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $215 USD Buy-in Trny:165414772 Level:2 Blinds-Antes(500/1K -125) - Sunday, March 11, 20:19:45 CET 2018
Table Super Sunday Big Bounty Hunter-H. $1M Gtd [PKO]. (165414772) Table #67 (real money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 8/8
Seat 2: GTyOlo ( 94,875 )
Seat 7: Jaciepa ( 179,450 )
Seat 3: L1qu1dF4rt ( 78,750 )
Seat 5: Sav4ik33 ( 95,792 )
Seat 4: ShAAmp00 ( 128,500 )
Seat 1: cirodimarzo ( 94,300 )
Seat 6: hiena10 ( 121,183 )
Seat 8: moneyflowowow ( 107,150 )
Trny:165414772 Level:2
Blinds-Antes(500/1.000 -125)
cirodimarzo posts ante [125]
GTyOlo posts ante [125]
L1qu1dF4rt posts ante [125]
ShAAmp00 posts ante [125]
Sav4ik33 posts ante [125]
hiena10 posts ante [125]
Jaciepa posts ante [125]
moneyflowowow posts ante [125]
moneyflowowow posts small blind [500].
cirodimarzo posts big blind [1,000].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to L1qu1dF4rt [ Ac Qd ]
GTyOlo folds
L1qu1dF4rt raises [3,000]
ShAAmp00 folds
Sav4ik33 folds
hiena10 folds
Jaciepa folds
moneyflowowow calls [2,500]
cirodimarzo folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 8c, Jc ]
moneyflowowow checks
L1qu1dF4rt bets [6,000]
moneyflowowow calls [6,000]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
moneyflowowow checks
L1qu1dF4rt bets [15,000]
moneyflowowow calls [15,000]
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
moneyflowowow will be using their time bank for this hand.
moneyflowowow is all-In [83,025]
L1qu1dF4rt will be using their time bank for this hand.
Currently you do not have any time left in your Time Bank and your hand has been checked.
L1qu1dF4rt did not respond in time
L1qu1dF4rt ?

It looks so bluffy but it seems high level players would see right through that so it might be reversal of thought. I set up flopzilla and it seems we beat more than we lose to.


I used a normal type calling range, everything you see but TT-22 and few more SC down to 45s but removed a few from the action from street to street and weighted some suited stuff at 25%.

If hes bluffing thats a great card to bluff on. With a ten giving him the nuts, a hand like q-10 seems very probable. To put everything on the line for a two pair on a board of the likes, not a great long-term stategy

Wow. Tough spot


Any Ten beats you, so what kind of hands would he have that contained a Ten?


Random Tx hands defending versus an EP 3x seems unlikely, so something connected and or suited. ATo all the way down to T7 suited and T8o. All these are assuming that BB puts you on a strong hand range, (AQ, KK, AA, QQ, Maybe AcKc)


I would rule out any TcXc as he would have probably have found a check raise somewhere along the way, with the exception on Tc9c, as you might slow play the flopped nuts with the straight flush draw. Obviously cannot be AcTc, as you have the Ac


T9 might have been waiting for a safe turn before check raising, then a bigger straight hits the turn and that plan gets aborted. River saves the hand, chop at worst


T with a pair or straight draw. Once again I think that these hands would check raise flop or turn.


ThXh, unless this is exactly KhTh, but still probably going to raise the turn with the nuts and a freeroll. And any KT is going to check raise the turn to protect against your perceived redraw equity.


AT. You do block AT, and have the Ac, key to the front door flush draw. Ah on the turn blocks the AhTh combo, so he is left with AsTs, AsTo (3), AdTd, AdTo (3). 8 combinations. This hand makes the most sense *****IF***** he does have the T for the straight. Flops a gut shot, check call. Turn top pair with bad kicker and a gut shot, check call as he is still behind your range. River makes his hand, he knows that 2 pair and sets are going to check behind, so he shoves because he either has the straight or not, so great polarizing bet size

1dkp0k3r said:

Wow. Tough spot


Any Ten beats you, so what kind of hands would he have that contained a Ten?


Random Tx hands defending versus an EP 3x seems unlikely, so something connected and or suited. ATo all the way down to T7 suited and T8o. All these are assuming that BB puts you on a strong hand range, (AQ, KK, AA, QQ, Maybe AcKc)


I would rule out any TcXc as he would have probably have found a check raise somewhere along the way, with the exception on Tc9c, as you might slow play the flopped nuts with the straight flush draw. Obviously cannot be AcTc, as you have the Ac


T9 might have been waiting for a safe turn before check raising, then a bigger straight hits the turn and that plan gets aborted. River saves the hand, chop at worst


T with a pair or straight draw. Once again I think that these hands would check raise flop or turn.


ThXh, unless this is exactly KhTh, but still probably going to raise the turn with the nuts and a freeroll. And any KT is going to check raise the turn to protect against your perceived redraw equity.


AT. You do block AT, and have the Ac, key to the front door flush draw. Ah on the turn blocks the AhTh combo, so he is left with AsTs, AsTo (3), AdTd, AdTo (3). 8 combinations. This hand makes the most sense *****IF***** he does have the T for the straight. Flops a gut shot, check call. Turn top pair with bad kicker and a gut shot, check call as he is still behind your range. River makes his hand, he knows that 2 pair and sets are going to check behind, so he shoves because he either has the straight or not, so great polarizing bet size

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I folded cause I likely tought he would take this line with AT yes (maybe QTcc but depedns on how he plays this), just wasnt to sure thats why I posted, ofc tought players at this level could make a bluff as riverplay as well.

ZenGreen said:

It looks so bluffy but it seems high level players would see right through that so it might be reversal of thought. I set up flopzilla and it seems we beat more than we lose to.


I used a normal type calling range, everything you see but TT-22 and few more SC down to 45s but removed a few from the action from street to street and weighted some suited stuff at 25%.

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This is seemingly very nice tool to work with, if I beat any hands it will defenitely be lots of 2 pairs , which maybe a good player could turn into a bluff river.
Just need to take some better look at this screenie again (some games are starting in 4 minute) Ty for posting , I'll take anothe rlook later on

I agree with everyone, it appears we are smoked in this hand and Im sure they would fold me. Im trying to remove that aspect of the game if its not warranted but I cant see 2 pair winning here either. My only blank is, I dont know how high stakes players minds think in situations like this. Plus what sucks is all 10s he can have are combos now P + Draw (10s calling OTT) JT QT AT even T8 if called OOP with that (guess what Im saying is that we dont fold any tens along the way).