$2 NLHE MTT: 2 all-ins - tough spot with 1010

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Online tourney. We are in the money. About 100 left out of close to 3K.

HJ-profitable player from sharkscope. Seems like a reg. No significant history.- 18bb
SB - losing player. No history.- 23bb.
BB- Hero - 39 BB

Rest of the table covers HJ and SB. To the left of HJ is the chip leader with over 100BB.
We have antes so pot is 2.1BB pre.

Everyone folds to HJ.
HJ shoves.
CO and button fold.
SB shoves.

Hero has 1010. (pot is 43.5BB)
Call? Fold?
With what range would you call here ?
 
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meh I tank fold. It's really close though.

you don't give any reads except sharkscope stuff but that's somewhat valuable. 18bb decent player is probably shoving small-mid PPs and AJ-AQ. (I'd guess he is raising monsters and AK with the plans to call off/barrel off)

SB is jamming tighter than that. probably TT+ and AQ/AK. vs. that range you have 33% equity which is exactly what you need for this to be a break even call in cash. because its tourney you can pass on breakeven spots later in the tourney due to ICM and if you perceive you have a skill advantage over the field. (you probably do).

It's not a big mistake either way to call or fold. If I'm feeling alert and excited to play and grind and feel like I'm way better than this field I fold. If I'm tired or I'm multitabling and there is a different tourny I'm more interested in or any other factors where I don't mind busting then I guess I call.

Your equity doesn't go much above 33% unless HJ is also jamming hands like suited wheel aces and the SB is also jamming hands like AJo and 88+ even then vs those 2 looser ranges you only have 39% which is technically profitable but not a huge edge given the pot odds.
 
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I think it is a flip. It is your choice.
 
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All decisions might be very close. If you are on a good streak then call, otherwise fold.
 
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All decisions might be very close. If you are on a good streak then call, otherwise fold.


I don't think a streak should have any impact on my decision here.

I called. My logic was that HJ would not shove his monsters (because he is much better than the field) and that SB would be pretty wide AJ+. Furthermore, there is a decent chance they are sharing outs. The only hand I was worried about was JJ because I don't think that HJ (or SB for that matter) would shove QQ+ there.

HJ had JJ.
SB had AK.
10 on turn final here we come :)
 
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I don't think a streak should have any impact on my decision here.

I called. My logic was that HJ would not shove his monsters (because he is much better than the field) and that SB would be pretty wide AJ+. Furthermore, there is a decent chance they are sharing outs. The only hand I was worried about was JJ because I don't think that HJ (or SB for that matter) would shove QQ+ there.

HJ had JJ.
SB had AK.
10 on turn final here we come :)
Anyway i think that luck is the most important factor in 3-way all-in even if you have AA. For example recently i have lost with 10 10 against KQ. You won, luck was on your side.
 
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From the point of view of mathematics - fold, intuition and the desire to quickly double up require - call
 
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It’s so close for me. You are also right about hj mostly not showing his monster and sb has wide range but right play is folding 3 way acting there. Considering it’s a 2$ tournament I’d probably go in but if it’s over 20$ games I’d fold it.
 
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Very interesting hand. Since HJ is a winning player, and one of shorter guys, he probably shoves pretty wide. I give him top 20%, minus AA, KK and QQ. I disagree with you on SB's range being wide. Weak players significantly tighten up when they run deep. He is probably even overfolding here. I give him 88+, AQ+. Against those ranges your hand, TT, has 36%, which is significantly more than 33% that we need. So, correct decision here is to CALL.
 
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I think either a call or a fold is not terrible here. I mean the losing player could be re-shoving wide and 18bb villain should have a fairly wide range as well.

I would call personally but I play a high-variance style. I would rather risk it now for a huge stack to push toward the final table than to fold.

I dont think either is bad and am not sure which is "better".
 
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