rikoberto
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hello guys.I had an awkward spot in FT of 2.5$ 180man MttSng.i will post the hand and then i will make my question for further discussion
PokerStars - 2000/4000 Ante 400 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (UTG): 18.61 BB
UTG+1: 1 BB (VPIP: 6.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 31)
MP: 6.58 BB (VPIP: 22.47, PFR: 13.58, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 90)
CO: 12.26 BB (VPIP: 21.45, PFR: 16.18, 3Bet Preflop: 9.75, Hands: 866)
BTN: 3.89 BB (VPIP: 18.84, PFR: 10.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.10, Hands: 949)
SB: 16.42 BB (VPIP: 21.29, PFR: 17.74, 3Bet Preflop: 6.04, Hands: 1,122)
BB: 8.73 BB (VPIP: 22.26, PFR: 18.61, 3Bet Preflop: 9.03, Hands: 882)
7 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2.2 BB) Hero has A♠ K♠
Hero raises to 2.1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 16.32 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 14.22 BB
Flop: (34.34 BB, 2 players) K♦ Q♣ 8♥
Turn: (34.34 BB, 2 players) 3♥
River: (34.34 BB, 2 players) 9♦
[spoil]SB shows K♥ A♦ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 48%, Flop 50%, Turn 50%)
Hero shows A♠ K♠ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 52%, Flop 50%, Turn 50%)
Hero wins 17.17 BB
SB wins 17.17 BB
[/spoil]
So,which is the most +EV move for AKs here in this specific spot,given villains stacks?Open/call or shoving?The main problem is that the only guy i am afraid of shoving on my open,is the 2nd leader who is also a reg btw(as he finally did).He put me in a very difficult spot,because he isnt shoving super light to abuse the spot risking his life tournament..Being experienced from that kind of ICM spots,i almost folding AKs made a cry call last second..finally pot splited but i felt it was -EV..I run the hand later in Icmizer and i saw that giving him a shoving range like 8.0%, (66+ ATs+ AJo+) which is reasonable,i must call only with JJ+ in this spot.So i am confused which is the most optimal play in that spot.If i induce and fold with AKs in that kind of spots its too bad,but if i am shoving 18.5bbs with AKs doesnt also loose much value from small stacks that can shove and give me an easy call?i am confused so anyone who knows,it would help a lot.
PS:If someone knows how to calculate the different EV of that spots(open or shoving) with programms like cardrunners EV(because i am new at it),it would be super helpfull..
PokerStars - 2000/4000 Ante 400 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (UTG): 18.61 BB
UTG+1: 1 BB (VPIP: 6.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 31)
MP: 6.58 BB (VPIP: 22.47, PFR: 13.58, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 90)
CO: 12.26 BB (VPIP: 21.45, PFR: 16.18, 3Bet Preflop: 9.75, Hands: 866)
BTN: 3.89 BB (VPIP: 18.84, PFR: 10.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.10, Hands: 949)
SB: 16.42 BB (VPIP: 21.29, PFR: 17.74, 3Bet Preflop: 6.04, Hands: 1,122)
BB: 8.73 BB (VPIP: 22.26, PFR: 18.61, 3Bet Preflop: 9.03, Hands: 882)
7 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2.2 BB) Hero has A♠ K♠
Hero raises to 2.1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 16.32 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 14.22 BB
Flop: (34.34 BB, 2 players) K♦ Q♣ 8♥
Turn: (34.34 BB, 2 players) 3♥
River: (34.34 BB, 2 players) 9♦
[spoil]SB shows K♥ A♦ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 48%, Flop 50%, Turn 50%)
Hero shows A♠ K♠ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 52%, Flop 50%, Turn 50%)
Hero wins 17.17 BB
SB wins 17.17 BB
[/spoil]
So,which is the most +EV move for AKs here in this specific spot,given villains stacks?Open/call or shoving?The main problem is that the only guy i am afraid of shoving on my open,is the 2nd leader who is also a reg btw(as he finally did).He put me in a very difficult spot,because he isnt shoving super light to abuse the spot risking his life tournament..Being experienced from that kind of ICM spots,i almost folding AKs made a cry call last second..finally pot splited but i felt it was -EV..I run the hand later in Icmizer and i saw that giving him a shoving range like 8.0%, (66+ ATs+ AJo+) which is reasonable,i must call only with JJ+ in this spot.So i am confused which is the most optimal play in that spot.If i induce and fold with AKs in that kind of spots its too bad,but if i am shoving 18.5bbs with AKs doesnt also loose much value from small stacks that can shove and give me an easy call?i am confused so anyone who knows,it would help a lot.
PS:If someone knows how to calculate the different EV of that spots(open or shoving) with programms like cardrunners EV(because i am new at it),it would be super helpfull..
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