$2.20 NLHE MTT: Final Table Hyper Turbo JJ

First hand against the villain, and second hand in the final table. What do you think ? Do you see this shove OK ? Thanks in advance.

PokerStars - 15000/30000 Ante 7500 NL (7 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 32.5 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 9)
MP: 34.28 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 6.24 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
BTN: 18.67 BB (VPIP: 11.43, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
SB: 9.24 BB (VPIP: 14.75, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 62)
Hero (BB): 10.98 BB
UTG: 41.1 BB (VPIP: 47.37, PFR: 56.25, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 19)

7 players post ante of 0.25 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.25 BB) Hero has J:heart: J:diamond:

fold, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10.73 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 calls 7.73 BB

Flop: (23.7 BB, 2 players) 7:spade: 6:spade: 3:spade:

Turn: (23.7 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond:

River: (23.7 BB, 2 players) K:club:

Just a bad beat, dont be too results oriented. If youre not shoving JJ here then what are you waiting for?

If you really want to analyze the situation, we can consider UTGs opening range and 10bb calling range from early position and work out what range you should be shoving here based on what kind of equity you need and the fold equity you have

Hello.

This is a tough spot for you since there was a player with 6BB and 9BB, and a 3X raise from UTG+1.
You has almost zero fold equity and a very strong hand sitting there with 10BB.

I believe it was the right move there since you will see alot of under pairs and flipping hands vs him.

Wish you the best at the tables.

mbrenneman0 said:

Just a bad beat, dont be too results oriented. If youre not shoving JJ here then what are you waiting for?

If you really want to analyze the situation, we can consider UTGs opening range and 10bb calling range from early position and work out what range you should be shoving here based on what kind of equity you need and the fold equity you have

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Thanks ! As I have mentioned it was the first hand against him and the second one in the final table. That is why i could not consider the UTG range. He could do it with any hand. Thanks for your reply.

nucl said:

Hello.

This is a tough spot for you since there was a player with 6BB and 9BB, and a 3X raise from UTG+1.
You has almost zero fold equity and a very strong hand sitting there with 10BB.

I believe it was the right move there since you will see alot of under pairs and flipping hands vs him.

Wish you the best at the tables.

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Thanks . GL in the tables too ! :drunken_s

You have 11 BB. His calling range includes more hands that you beat than hands you lose to. The results should have no impact on your decision here- easy shove.

Daniel Pucciarelli said:

Thanks ! As I have mentioned it was the first hand against him and the second one in the final table. That is why i could not consider the UTG range. He could do it with any hand. Thanks for your reply.

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you can still make some assumptions. its usually pretty safe to assume they are opening the same range as any beginner range chart would suggest, especially in a preflop situation, postflop situations readless, you dont necessarily want to rule out any hands... but this will give us a rough idea of where to start. i definitely think its a mistake to assume someone is a nit because you will miss out on a lot more value. Honestly the only reason you shouldn't raise all in is if he only open raises 3% from UTG, which assuming he's that tight would be pretty unrealistic IMO.

mbrenneman0 said:

you can still make some assumptions. its usually pretty safe to assume they are opening the same range as any beginner range chart would suggest, especially in a preflop situation, postflop situations readless, you dont necessarily want to rule out any hands... but this will give us a rough idea of where to start. i definitely think its a mistake to assume someone is a nit because you will miss out on a lot more value. Honestly the only reason you shouldn't raise all in is if he only open raises 3% from UTG, which assuming he's that tight would be pretty unrealistic IMO.

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Lol , i get it ! Yes i thought a shove was the best decision here. Thanks for your reply.

If you are looking to win tournament no way to fold here.

Its just bad beat man.He opend raised from UTG+1 which is often strong but you have dominated 10 pocket pairs and only 3 pocket pairs dominates you,also you are coinfliping and you are favorite against any ace with face card..and since you had only 11 bb it was perfect spot to jam but unfortunately he had QQ.In the long run jaming jacks to preflop reise when short stake is profitabile so dont think that you did a bad move it was just a cooler and it happens to the best players in the world.