$2.2 NLHE MTT Bounty: $2,20 NLHE MTT Bounty: AKo OOP facing a 4-bet against a deep stack

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$2.2 NLHE MTT Bounty: $2,20 NLHE MTT Bounty: AKo OOP facing a 4-bet against a deep stack

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I have really mixed emotions about that hand.

I had no read on the villain, he just sat down couple of hands ago. Around 600 remaining in the MTT from the field of 7,6K.
 
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I think you should of bet something post flop just to gauge the v strength here, just like 3BB or something small and if he raises fold but this really could just be a case of the v using position to scare you off the pot, I'd be very skeptical that he hit anything. But don't forget about the probe bets to help in these situations when you're OOP.
 
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not many players 4-bet light and as there's no reads I expect him to do that with the top of his range only, at least I would give him the benefit of the doubt.
AK has 6 cards to improve on the flop and even hitting the flop might not be enough.
Save yourself some trouble ,fold to the 4-bet and happily go on with more then 50 BB.
As played I would not donk-bet the flop as it'll likely only cost you a bunch of chips more because you will not make QQ+ fold and I seiously doubt he would have 4-bet with less.
So what you're gonna feeler bet ? 15-20K ? and having to fold to a raise ?
That's spewy.
Give up and hope it gets checked to showdown (where you are losing most of the time anyways).
Imo your 3-bet was fine, your fold on the turn was fine too although again, without any reads I think folding to his 4-bet preflop was the better option.
 
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I guess KK and AA, I can't see much Q's checking the flop. I think you made a pretty good 3bet size, his 4bet is super strong and basically he is saying 'I will commit my chips post flop'. I would consider fold to the 4bet on that spot.

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AK is a great hand, until you have to play it post flop, out of position, against a 3 bet. Imo, you did everything right. Lost the least amount after the opening, folded when pressure was applied, and lived to play instead of bluffing out on non pair.
 
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You played it rather well I'd say. So many people shove pre-flop with that hand, and loose to QQ+. Once you saw that flop, even if you were beating villain pre flop (say he had AQ or something), you are now losing, so checking the flop is rather fine.
If there is a chance villain is 4-betting with TT/JJ, then leading on that flop might be a good option, but with no stats on the opponent it is too much of a risk.
 
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I think you line was fine. The 3-Bet was fine. Calling the 4-Bet is debateable but I personally would have called it (with those stack size), specially if I had position, which unfortunately u didn't have as you were blind vs BU. In your position, I think it's OK to both flat or fold.

I agree with 10058765 about donk betting/probe betting. It's useless in this scenario. Villain essentially has a range of 10s++ and sometimes AQ+. So if/when we call the 4 bet, we are basically trying to hit the K or A on the flop.

Once the villain checks back the flop, I'd say he has a monster (most likely a set of Q's).

I think your flop check and turn check-fold is perfectly fine.
 
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This is a Shove/Fold spot once you've 3bet pre & Villain 4bets.... the decision is either get it in... or fold (Flatting in this spot sucks!).
(I also don't mind flatting pre (vs. 3-betting) some of the time tbh.)
 
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I think you should of bet something post flop just to gauge the v strength here, just like 3BB or something small and if he raises fold but this really could just be a case of the v using position to scare you off the pot, I'd be very skeptical that he hit anything. But don't forget about the probe bets to help in these situations when you're OOP.


What would make us skeptical of villain's hand strength here. Villain has 4bet pre with an SPR of less than 1.
Also, I'm pretty sure a donk-bet of 1/10th pot will do nothing but just have us donating more chips (& would have us making a bad decision on top of a bad decision).
 
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