$1500 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: Flop an Open Ended Straight flush draw super deep stacked

Jacki Burkhart

Jacki Burkhart

long winded rambler...
Silver Level
Joined
Oct 12, 2013
Total posts
2,960
Awards
6
Chips
0
$1500 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: Flop an Open Ended Straight flush draw super deep stacked

Day1A of monsterstack. level 1 25/50

relevant stacks: Hero me ~17,000 (340bb)
Player A ~ 13,000 (260bb)
Player B ~ 12,000 (240bb)

I'm in the BB we are 10 handed

3 folds then player A in MP raises to 150
Player B on his left in LoJack flats
it folds to me in the BB I have 7c4c and flat.

Pot: 475

flop
5c6cKh shit yeah! open ended straight flush draw anyone? pick me

I check Player A Cbets 300
Player B folds

I consider check raising to about 1,100 but decide against it because I think we're too deep for me to happily get it in here, and I like my hand too much to fold out his 1 pair hands and bluffs. At the time I don't have a ton of info on the guy as it's early but he seems to be opening a tad too wide and cbets frequently but not always, and usually cbets 60-66% pot. Theres a good chance he has nothing and I want to keep him in here, so I just flat.

Pot has 1,075 going to turn
turn is 2c bink!

I check player A bets 800. I flat

Pot has 2,675 going to river. River brings the Ks

I consider donking for about 2/3 pot, but elect to check in case he has nothing and tries to bluff, or in case he has a King and wants to bet it.

I check, he bets 2,500 which sort of surprises me that he bet this much. I'm not folding obviously but I tank for 30 seconds or so trying to decide whether or not I can raise.

NEXT? Raise? or flat? and if I raise to how much? he has about 8k back. I have more.
 
S

Supmargy

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 3, 2017
Total posts
559
Awards
1
Chips
1
I don't know what to advise here but I do have a question.

What are the hand ranges you think he has?
I suppose we're definitely thinking about a K, and 50% chance it's a club.

So did he raise that much because he's afraid of the flush? Or because he has it?
Raising this much seems weird if he has it though...
 
Andrew Popov

Andrew Popov

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Jul 21, 2015
Total posts
2,845
Awards
4
Chips
132
There is no fold. You must bet and open the cards. Your hand beats the older flash, or maybe the villain is 55 or 66 and already full house, but without a ton of statistics you will not know this until you open the cards. You have a good hand.
 
mbrenneman0

mbrenneman0

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 19, 2016
Total posts
1,536
Awards
1
Chips
0
playing same way. raising all in after villains river bet. but wouldnt mind a small donk bet. maybe about 900. but check raise is fine on the river too. either way youre hoping he has Kx and if he does its getting in one way or another. but if you donk bet the river he might sometimes try to catch or if he thinks your bluffing could induce a bluff as well. i know some players honestly believe you should always raise a donk bet no matter what.
on the other hand he might see through your donk bet and realize what your trying to do and then you dont get value from his Kx or his bluffs so it might depend what kind of player he is.
 
Q

QA77

Visionary
Bronze Level
Joined
Jan 30, 2017
Total posts
504
Awards
1
Chips
3
I would almost always call in this situation. I think raising here is really bad especially because you are deep. I like the way you played it especially not going for the donk bet.
 
B

Brandom1

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 23, 2017
Total posts
58
Chips
0
Just a flat call and take the pot along with the info....you check raise into a possible boat or bigger flush...take the pot be glad and hope like hell he wasn't slow playing a monster trying to induce a bluff...of course that's coming from a nit...
 
oakthyago

oakthyago

Rock Star
Platinum Level
Joined
Jun 21, 2017
Total posts
367
Awards
2
Chips
0
I did not know if I would call this river, I probable would but knowing that I was more for the loser... he open from EP and seen to have a strong hand every streets I would give him AKc KK, or big bluff like AJ+, QQ
 
B

bumerangue

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 29, 2017
Total posts
132
Chips
0
Well, I would play differently, since you are deep and you flop a monster draw, I think the check/raise on the flop here would be better than just call, IMO if he has the king here, he I think he wouldnt fold right away on the flop, plus the pot get bigger to a possible all in on the river if you hit a decent hand.

As played, the check call on the turn is ok, he could be thinking that if you were at a flush draw, you were supposed to check/raise on this spot to grow the pot. When the king comes, I would check/raise on the river, by the time you donk with a high bet, a decent reg players should realize that you could have a full by making a set on the flop, maybe the flush, so a small size donk should work, but I would prefer the check/raise, you could have like a 77, 88, 99, A6- with some showdown value, wanting to see it cheap.

So IMO, I would check/raise flop, bet turn and depending on the pot size, shove river, but as played on flop, check/turn and check/raise river
 
Full Flush Poker
Top