$125 NLHE MTT: Looking for proper play.

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This was a live tournament hand in the 100+25 7pm tournament at the Aria in Las Vegas.

Table was 6 handed at the time of this hand.

Blinds 400-800 with a 75 Ante 30 min levels

My table image was pretty tight and I was on about 12,000 chip stack and I was the short stack at the table.

My hand - UTG :6h4::6d4: I raise to 2000.

Young guy to my immediate right goes All In. This is probably the 3rd or 4th time he has done this to me and other times I had small to medium suited connectors(78s 89s 10Js) that I had folded.

Folds around back to me.

Given stacks sizes etc what is the groups thoughts on right play here?

Thanks in advance for the feedback.
 
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I push pre 6 handed shortstack. As you played and described this guy I am happily going in. Looks like an excellent spot to flip.

What is the spam of time he did these jams on to you ? What he is stack size ? How many left till the money ?

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I push pre 6 handed shortstack. As you played and described this guy I am happily going in. Looks like an excellent spot to flip.

What is the spam of time he did these jams on to you ? What he is stack size ? How many left till the money ?

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Jams were over the last level and a half ... his stack had me at least doubled probably a bit more. There were 20 left and top 5 or 6 got paid. We still had a while to play.

Thanks for your input.
 
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i agree with pepe, open raise all in. look up jennifear's pushfold chart to get an idea what kind of hands you should be to shoving with 15bb (just remember, open shoving and 3bet shoving are two totally different ranges, jennifears chart is only for open shoving)

as played call all in.
 
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Jams were over the last level and a half ... his stack had me at least doubled probably a bit more. There were 20 left and top 5 or 6 got paid. We still had a while to play.

Thanks for your input.

So he did that with about 30 bigs like 4 times past 45 minutes or so ? mmmm... I am definitely happy going in.

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Imho, you shouldn't open with suited connectors from UTG if you are not chipleader at the table. 66 with 15bb, borderline between push preflop or fold. When you raise though, normally you should fold to 3-bet, because it is bottom of your range. Against this guy probably call though.
 
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Also, 25% rake is crazy, that can't be super profitable regardless of your ability.
 
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First, let me say thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it. Here is how the hand played out and how I thought about it be it right or wrong.

I figured the villain has a pretty wide range. He is basically pushing me around because I had shown weakness in other hands and he figures I am just going to lay it down. My thinking is I am probably ahead but probably in a race. I think most times I am ahead in this specific situation but I am almost definitely facing 2 overs.

I decided to call.

The villain turns over AQ off and the race is on. Unfortunately, a Q came on the turn and I did not improve on the river. Busto ... out in 20th place.

In hindsight, I think a shove is a better play rather than just raising.

A note on the tournament itself. I really enjoyed this event and it was by far the best tournament I played while in Las Vegas. The 30 min blind levels and decent blind structure let me feel like I was actually playing poker not racings to an all in fest that required more luck than any actual skill. Most tournaments I saw were 10-15 min blinds with a doubling blind structure that basically made everyone in shove or fold mode buy the 6th level or so. Someone said about the 25% rake, I agree not ideal but for someone vacationing looking for a good tournament, I would recommend this event.
 
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Seems like you already got your answer, but all in or fold is where you're at. You have 11 effective big blinds when considering antes, so you really don't have much room. With you being on short stack, and villain having you covered pretty well, you likely called by AQ, but at least you put your chips in good and make villain make the decision. But I am with the liuou...25% rake is nuts. Find a different place to play.
 
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you need to just open shove.

You most likely have the best hand (esp 6 handed), and yet the playability of these mid pocket pairs is really poor (meaning flops usually have overs which make you uncomfortable and it's hard to flop strong draws so basically unless the flop has a 6 you rarely love it.)

when you standard raise not only do you give the BB a great price to outflop you with a hand like 89o that he would have folded to your jam....but also you allow players to jam on you with 2 overs and they steal what should be YOUR fold equity. if they want to call your jam with QJ let them....but when you just raise you invite hands that have good equity against you to either flat and outflop you, or jam on you and put YOU to the test. Just keep it simple and put them to the test. I'm not 100% sure at what stack size you can start raise/folding hands like 66....but it's much higher than 12bb. probably like 20+bb.

now...in this instance whether you jam or raise/call is likely going to have the same results since AQ was present. but in the future, vs random hands 66 will do better by just jamming.
 
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Obviously it is all in or fold mode! I would go all in on this play!
 
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Personally I’m either shoving all in pre or folding when I have 10-15 bigs. 66 is not ideal to be calling all in but your likely flipping or behind. In this instance, given that the villain has pushed you off several hands already, it’s clear he feels he can do so with ease. Unfortunately the cards didn’t go your way but you have to take a stand at some point once you open.
 
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