This is a discussion on $1100 NLHE MTT: MSPT ME (Blackhawk Colorado) Hand within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Hand Analysis section; $250/$500/$50 (I had $15,500)
A table just broke, and 2 players were moved to my table. I was in the HJ, and Villain #1 sat down
A table just broke, and 2 players were moved to my table. I was in the HJ, and Villain #1 sat down in LJ. The other player sat down in the CO, but too late to play this hand. So basically, I was in the CO.
The HJ/LJ player was in the process of sitting down, still spilling chips onto the table, and opened the first hand he was dealt after it folded to him to $1,500. He had roughly $35K.
Now, for years I’ve met players like this and immediately had a sense of what I was dealing with. He was probably opening too wide a range pre-flop and was almost certainly C-betting too frequently. I felt the implied odds (he had my stack covered by better than 2:1) were present for a set-mine and flat called, expecting a 100% C-bet – which is perfectly fine in a set-mine scenario.
Villain #2, the button (a solid reg I know well) called too, and both blinds folded.
Pot - $5,700
Villain #1 did not disappoint and C-bet $2,500. I elected to flat call, pretty much as planned. IMO, raising is pointless unless he has a hand – otherwise I just fold out all the combos I crush. His range, being a lot larger than it should be is the primary reason for that thinking. Even a good portion of the Queens in his range are going to have trouble calling a raise. Then, Villain #2 otb moves all-in for $25K.
Villain #1 goes into the tank for about 2-minutes.
“Ok, so you actually have a Queen here, probably a big one”
“Boy, do I wish I had raised the flop”
“He’s going to have to call this as he knows the button range is drawing/weak made range and he blocks a good portion of those draws” (if he has jq kq aq with any card being a diamond, and so on).
“I feel like I’m going to lose this one” – are all things I was thinking.
He finally overcalls the all-in and I call as well – I don’t know how to fold there.
for HJ, for the Button, and for me.
Pot #1 - $52,200
Pot #2 - ~$20K
I don’t want this to just be a bad beat story. I do wish I had raised the flop, then we have a shove from the button – and there is no way KQo can make that call. But that’s result orientated – I flat called for a reason. So, just curios if anyone has any thoughts on this one – I feel like it was just my time to lose.
Maybe I should be raising the flop as a default with action behind - Anyone? Bueller…Bueller?
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The board was fairly wet with a multi-way pot so in this case I think it would have been good to raise on the flop instead of just calling.
April 15th, 2018, 10:25 PM
Join Date: Feb 2018
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I think you played it fine. You want two players to stack off into you when you're holding a set. That is just a dream spot. You don't need to protect because it's very unlikely you're beat and you want people to play their draws aggressively. Even if they have a flush draw, you remove a couple of their outs with a set. It's a great spot and you did well to get two stacks in. Just unlucky.
April 16th, 2018, 12:00 AM
Join Date: Jan 2018
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What other hands are you flatting with here? If you are raising your semi bluff combo draws here then you also need to be raising your strong hands here, bottom set being a strong hand. If you never raise a draw here, then flatting is fine
April 16th, 2018, 3:06 PM
Join Date: Feb 2008
Game: NL Holdem
re: Poker & $1100 NLHE MTT: MSPT ME (Blackhawk Colorado) Hand
For me that board is just too wet to flat call the flop here. And I like what 1dkp about balancing your semi-bluff range with strong hands.
April 16th, 2018, 4:01 PM
Join Date: Apr 2018
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You were ok with the flat call. You probably would have won if you shoved, but like me, you were hoping for a big pot. Sometimes you just get caught.