$11 NLHE MTT Bounty: AA vs BB oop call-shove with flush draw on the flop

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Maybe it's a cooler and I shouldn't bring it up . :) But if not , would you have played it differently ?? Would it be a better idea to raise x3 (or more ??) with such a hand in 6max ??or generally ?? especially in a bounty tourney cause they call too often , damn it , ??

Does his move have any meaning/logic in poker terms at all , or at least in a bounty tourney ?? IMHO it seems bingo move , or am I wrong ??

Btw I have read/heard/seen(although this memory of mine lol....) that J10s has very good equity/improvement probabilieties vs AA , maybe best hand to fight it , is it true ?? Perhaps only preflop ??
(ooouuucchhhh , it still hurts :) )

Pls share your thoughts , thank you very much :)





pokerstars, $9.80 + $1.20 - Hold'em No Limit - 350/700 (90 ante) - 6 players
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darklexor (UTG): 24,820 (35 bb)
3722BMZ (MP): 24,820 (35 bb)
gipsy177 (CO): 22,370 (32 bb)
spiderman1076 (BU): 31,150 (45 bb)
Kirikov Alex (SB): 22,020 (31 bb)
oben99 (BB): 24,820 (35 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,590) Hero (3722BMZ) is MP with A A
1 fold, 3722BMZ (MP) raises to 1,750, 2 players fold, Kirikov Alex (SB) calls 1,400, oben99 (BB) calls 1,050

Flop: (5,790) 5 7 K (3 players)
Kirikov Alex (SB) checks, oben99 (BB) bets 22,980 (all-in), 3722BMZ (MP) calls 22,980 (all-in), Kirikov Alex (SB) folds

Turn: (51,750) T (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (51,750) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 51,750

Showdown:
oben99 (BB) shows T J (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 22%, Flop: 39%, Turn: 32%, River: 100%)

3722BMZ (MP) shows A A (two pair, Aces and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 78%, Flop: 61%, Turn: 68%, River: 0%)

oben99 (BB) wins 51,750
 
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Friend, your play is correct, there is no more correct way to play it, also your opponent's call is fine, only that flop changed things. I would have simply decided to fold the AA. I wouldn't risk staying in the tournament with that horrible flop haha. GG
 
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Preflop
With a 35BB stack and no short stacks behind we could raise to 3BB preflop, but 2,5BB is more standard in todays game, and in the long run this will not really matter. So do, whatever you feel most comfortable with, but use the same size regardless of your cards. In an 11$ MTT people are to good to use staggered bet sizing.

Flop
I am snap calling. You are pretty much only behind to 77, 55 and 75s, and I think, he usually play those hands as a check-raise. I expect to see a draw here a huge percentage of the time, and since you are ahead of draws, this is a sigh call. I will not recommend his line. With a J high flushdraw I am either check-calling or check-raising the flop.
 
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His defending range is pretty wide i think. So you are behind against a set or maybe K7. Against a Fush draw which is most likely you have 66 % chance of winning.

Without any furhter information on this Player I probably make a tough fold. For me it probably wasn´t worth losing the tournament by coinflip.
 
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Size pre flop ok, call ok. Without any prior information, I wonder why he shoved donk bet on the flop. Kings he doesn't shove. The shove flop is important information, but I don't think I folded. Depending on the player AK, K7, K5, 57 he would shove? It depends a lot on previous information. In the end he played poorly and unfortunately the river didn't help you. It's part of the game. GG
 
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You made the right decision and got your chips in with by far the best hand. Well played.
 
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Preflop is standard. Villans line post flop is pretty strange and doesnt make much sense...with AA and a 30bb stack I am snapping off here all day every day - we got it in super good, just unfortunate we couldn't hold. Frosty spot, chalk it up to that being poker and move on.
 
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