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ParasOsa
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Hi folks, here's my very first post on any poker forum.
A few days ago I ran deep in this,~5600 runners, 40 left. My image is strong and tight in this table, but fish don't care at least pre.
I've opened like 3 times in 34 hands (not gettin cards), flops are seen every hand. If fish doesn't open, at least 1 fish calls an open. Can't throw cbets in if flop is missed.
SB and BB are not 3bettors. BTN aggromonkey 3bets 20%, I'm 4bet ripping anything I open vs him.
poker stars, $11 Buy-in (4,500/9,000 blinds, 1,125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details
MP1: 183,943 (20.4 bb) 15/12 3b 22,2, AF 0
Hero (MP2): 228,304 (25.4 bb) 15/13, 3b 0,0 AF 2,0
MP3: 107,892 (12 bb) 21/10, 3b 20,0 AF 0
CO: 146,097 (16.2 bb) 20/19, 3b 0,0 AF 2,0
BTN: 793,544 (88.2 bb) 41/36 3b 20,0 (fold to 3b 100) AF 0,8 (cbet 60)
SB: 634,239 (70.5 bb) 32/16 3b 0,0 AF 1,8
BB: 258,692 (28.7 bb) 47/3 3b 5,6 AF 1,8
UTG+2: 324,960 (36.1 bb) 15/6 3b 14,3 AF 0
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3♣3♦
2 folds, Hero raises to 18,000, 3 folds, SB calls 13,500, BB calls 9,000
Flop: (63,000) 8♠4♦4♣ (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets 9,000, Hero raises to 29,600, SB folds, BB calls 20,600
Turn: (122,200) 7♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
River: (122,200) T♠ (2 players)
BB bets 27,000, Hero folds
Oh man what should I do?
My thinking:
I decided to open with treys because:
-I have a tight image and I'm EP, steal can go through
-if button 3bets I'll shove if getting the chance, I can call HJ and CO if hu
-SB and BB won't 3bet me light
-If everyone doesn't fold then flop is likely w 18k investment so SET ONE TIME
And the flop is where I got confused. Last hand the now on BB guy limped UTG and stabbed A high flop small in limped 3 way pot, and check folded on a blank turn. Hes fold to CB is 67. Almost for sure he doesn't donk this size with 8, because...it's just the normal assumption with fish. It most likely is 4 with a good or bad kicker cause there's no draws. Could be 55-77.
In the moment I felt he's weak and I have to raise. But I think I raised too big cause he's not a TOTAL fish. Big just looks like I wanna push him off.
If I'd get a second chance I'd raise to 21000. Calling is too tricky. A smaller raise gives me a cheaper price to barrel turn 1/2 pot trying to make him fold. I'm giving up on any but 3 river probably. A riv could valuebet bluff.
Turn check is the worst, just can't try to showdown.
River T is a bad card and he's sizing is really blockery, just cannot call. Now it's too late to raise half of the stack as a bluff/shove is not repping anything?
After all the best thing has to be open fold and wait for some cards and shove them. Plus seeing cheap flops from blinds works too.
Gotta learn how to play against these mindonk donks
A few days ago I ran deep in this,~5600 runners, 40 left. My image is strong and tight in this table, but fish don't care at least pre.
I've opened like 3 times in 34 hands (not gettin cards), flops are seen every hand. If fish doesn't open, at least 1 fish calls an open. Can't throw cbets in if flop is missed.
SB and BB are not 3bettors. BTN aggromonkey 3bets 20%, I'm 4bet ripping anything I open vs him.
poker stars, $11 Buy-in (4,500/9,000 blinds, 1,125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details
MP1: 183,943 (20.4 bb) 15/12 3b 22,2, AF 0
Hero (MP2): 228,304 (25.4 bb) 15/13, 3b 0,0 AF 2,0
MP3: 107,892 (12 bb) 21/10, 3b 20,0 AF 0
CO: 146,097 (16.2 bb) 20/19, 3b 0,0 AF 2,0
BTN: 793,544 (88.2 bb) 41/36 3b 20,0 (fold to 3b 100) AF 0,8 (cbet 60)
SB: 634,239 (70.5 bb) 32/16 3b 0,0 AF 1,8
BB: 258,692 (28.7 bb) 47/3 3b 5,6 AF 1,8
UTG+2: 324,960 (36.1 bb) 15/6 3b 14,3 AF 0
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3♣3♦
2 folds, Hero raises to 18,000, 3 folds, SB calls 13,500, BB calls 9,000
Flop: (63,000) 8♠4♦4♣ (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets 9,000, Hero raises to 29,600, SB folds, BB calls 20,600
Turn: (122,200) 7♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
River: (122,200) T♠ (2 players)
BB bets 27,000, Hero folds
Oh man what should I do?
My thinking:
I decided to open with treys because:
-I have a tight image and I'm EP, steal can go through
-if button 3bets I'll shove if getting the chance, I can call HJ and CO if hu
-SB and BB won't 3bet me light
-If everyone doesn't fold then flop is likely w 18k investment so SET ONE TIME
And the flop is where I got confused. Last hand the now on BB guy limped UTG and stabbed A high flop small in limped 3 way pot, and check folded on a blank turn. Hes fold to CB is 67. Almost for sure he doesn't donk this size with 8, because...it's just the normal assumption with fish. It most likely is 4 with a good or bad kicker cause there's no draws. Could be 55-77.
In the moment I felt he's weak and I have to raise. But I think I raised too big cause he's not a TOTAL fish. Big just looks like I wanna push him off.
If I'd get a second chance I'd raise to 21000. Calling is too tricky. A smaller raise gives me a cheaper price to barrel turn 1/2 pot trying to make him fold. I'm giving up on any but 3 river probably. A riv could valuebet bluff.
Turn check is the worst, just can't try to showdown.
River T is a bad card and he's sizing is really blockery, just cannot call. Now it's too late to raise half of the stack as a bluff/shove is not repping anything?
After all the best thing has to be open fold and wait for some cards and shove them. Plus seeing cheap flops from blinds works too.
Gotta learn how to play against these mindonk donks
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