$109 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: Did I play this right??

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No stats as I don't have a HUD for over $22 games.

Won the $109 ticket in last nights CC game on PP. This hand is nearing the 2nd hour of late reg... I have been missing a lot of boards... or just re-raised out of them... Villian was quite new to the table.

SB 33,000
Hero 18,840

SB raises to 2000
Hero calls 1200 with J8s

POT $4,900
FLOP Td Kh 2d
SB 3bets 2000
hero calls 2000 (I called to see if he is just repping the K)

POT $8,900
TURN 4c
SB 3bets 2000
Hero calls 2000 (Would of folded if he bet bigger, but he bet less than half the pot... I called to rep the K)

POT $12,900
RIVER Kc
SB checks (villian instant checked)
Hero is All-in for 12,740 (I actually thought if a K landed I would shove here if villain showed weakness, so when he instantly checked here I believe he did not have a K. I thought possibly FD or a T maybe A2s)

I will show result later... Would you have played it the same way
 
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Your mistakes started on flop. You can't pay on such board and such a hand with 20 BB in your pocket. There is a serious range of hands that is beating you and the possible draw for a winning hand for you is not so serious.
 
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Yea was thinking flop call was a mistake. Like you say I have 23bbs so not enough BBs to get fancy with... I never think about that when I am playing, just like to call to see what villian does on the turn, and don't like to show weakness by being a fit of fold player. I don't believe the turn was a mistake though as betting less than half the pot could be showing he has whiffed the board. He could still possibly have A2o/s here, but I think he would of bet more if he had a T or a FD??
 
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I jam pre. J8s is going to have decent equity against a calling range and the average player is going to be opening SBs pretty wide.

Fold flop. You have zero equity.

Same reason on the turn, if you sense weakness in your opponent, then you should be raising to try and take it down as you do not have SDV.

River is a spot where you're kind of stuck jamming even though you rep almost nothing with this jam and you're going to get looked up pretty light here.

I doubt you jam any Tx here. Flush and straight draws bricked, and I'd think you would make a small bet with Kx here considering how weak your opponents range is. Your opponent should be checking his entire value range on this river, but we don't know if he's good enough to.

This river is easily the worst one in the deck to bluff on, but given the way you played the hand, you kind of have to jam and pray he has an ace high/small pair that doesn't want to hero.
 
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Thanks Trent.

Yea my thought was I have to jam the river as it looks like I have Kx and he instantly folded, obviously thought that too.

I should really stop calling on flops where I have no equity especially when I am playing with a shallower stack.
 
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Jam preflop if you think he is making a play. You are not deep enough to play post flop.
I would have most likely just folded preflop wait for better spot.
 
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After I read it, I thought folding pre was the better play. But with the action, shoving river was a good play. It's just most ppl villains there are going to bet much more on the turn.... But luckily for you, he didn't.

good luck at the tables

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After I read it, I thought folding pre was the better play. But with the action, shoving river was a good play. It's just most ppl villains there are going to bet much more on the turn.... But luckily for you, he didn't.

good luck at the tables

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Yea I agree that he should be betting more on the turn, when they bet less or the same as their flop bet it usually suggests he has whiffed and/or is going with maybe a high card or he has hit the lowest on the board. My heart was in my mouth making that shove but I know it was the only line I could take.
 
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I also agree with trent, I should of 3bet on the turn when he showed weakness as I don't have show down value. I got lucky that he slowed down on the river so I could get to jam it in but it could of been a lot uglier.

Thanks for that advice trent, I sometimes don't think about sdv enough and it gets me into a lot of sticky rivers.
 
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I would've min raised the turn x2.5 or so, just a tad. The turn call and then river shove could be suspicious. Either way, this is shark play. Good job is stealing some extra chips if you read villains cbets. I'm assuming he folded? That turn villain bet was funny. Like he was betting a draw and trying to create some form of pot control.
 
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i would just fold j8 preflop in these spot however if i decided to call i would have bluff on the flop or on the turn if villain checks or makes a small raise. when you shove all in on the river villain might call even without the king because you dont show any strenght in your hand on preflop,flop and turn so you either have a monster hand or a bluff and villain might take the risk and make the call.
 
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I think once you involved yourself in the pot (which you shouldn't have with 20bb in my opinion), the spot would've been to raise on the flop. He is going to c-bet that flop almost 100% of the time, with any A, or any two cards, especially if he's the preflop aggressor. Once you call the flop, the turn is a tricky spot. Because yes, if you did have a K, you wouldn't raise, you would simply call. However, that being said, once he checks the river he's not only somewhat pot commited but he keeps all your bluffs in his range. Once the K comes on the turn, he thinks it's less likely you actually have trips. So he might check call any T on the river. He includes AJ, QJ and J9 in ur range when he checks, and he figures he cant get much more value out of a T if he bets the river, if you do jam the river it's because you either have a K or not, and it's also shitty that you don't have much information on him. Anyways, once you've gotten that far I figure the jam was the right play, however if he's loose, I'm pretty sure you're done.
 
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If you were going to take this line, I think the play is on the turn.
How can you rep the K calling 2k into an over 8k pot. Definitely a probing bet on the turn. Jam it home, you have 14k and fold equity. Your river jam seems weak to me. No way with your stack do you just call....Very polarized here. I think I call you with bottom pair unless I have a read on you.
 
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