$1 NLHE STT Turbo: How would you play this set Queens on flop??

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pokerstars Tournament $0.91+$0.09 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) ante 10
Table 9-max Seat #4 is the button

Seat 1: HERO (MP) (5245 in chips)
Seat 2: MP+1 (2803 in chips)
Seat 3: CO (4620 in chips)
Seat 4: BTN (5094 in chips)
Seat 5: SB (1510 in chips)
Seat 6: BB (3496 in chips)
Seat 7: UTG (322 in chips)
Seat 8: UTG+1 (4417 in chips)
Seat 9: UTG+2 (1386 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to HERO :qd4: :qc4:

folds, folds, folds, HERO: to 200, folds, folds, BTN: raises to 600, folds, folds, HERO: calls 400

*** FLOP *** :2d4: :qh4: :10d4:

HERO: checks, BTN: bets 475, HERO: raises to 1700, BTN thinks a minute and folds

HERO collected 2390 from pot

How would you play on this flop, I think that I was wrong, maybe I should play slowly and just call his bet on flop, not raise, and wait turn and river and collect all his chips??
 
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I think you played it really well actually. You know you know your probably ahead preflop so calling anything is smart, post flop you know your still ahead so re-raise is the right move. I wouldn't slow play this because the board is actually really wet on the flop (a possible flush draw with the diamonds and possible straight draw with the Q and T) and you really don't want them to see any more cards, at least not for what they think is a good price. Value bets are good to get more chips but usually only when you have the nuts already, so no don't slow play here just keep on the aggression and take the pot.
 
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I think you played well, you see that the flop favors you with a Q-trio but with two cards on the flop of the same suit, maybe just check that the opponent can project the nuts and more than that type of tournament there is much difference. .. because if the opponent had a project or a pair of insurance will pay you and maybe there if you could clean the table.. in my opinion...
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I like 4-betting pre-flop a bit more than flatting oop. Either way is good, but I want to build a pot and am happy to get it in with QQ for 50bbs. Early in a tournament people are often more willing to tool out if they can rebuy. If I get coolered, I can always rebuy.

Also, what the hell are you going to do the 30% of the time (or whatever it is) when an A or K come on the flop. It's a potential problem spot that I would rather avoid. Always galling when you get half your stack in pre-flop with QQ and an A or K flops.

Again, if I'm 4-betting preflop here and he flats I'm probably jamming the rest of my chips in on the flop unless both an A and a K fall. Even then, I'm not sure if it's right to fold.

At the same time, you can set your opponent up to make some bad calls with medium pairs when the board comes low.

You need to be aware that this is a table-image check-raise. You are always demonstrating strength here unless people believe you're capable of misrepresenting your hand. This is problematic in tournaments unless you're playing against regs against whom you can balance your entire range.

I think very few people will look at this check-raise in this spot and assume semi-bluff. Some will, but no one who wants to lose a 50bb stack. That being said, I still want to check-raise for value and deception in this spot as much as possible.
 
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Many times I slow play hand like this, and other people collect better hand more than 50% table with flash or straight. So now I do like you - make high aggression in preflop and flop, if they want collect something - they must to pay for this
 
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4Bing to 1500 pre and calling off a 5B shove. As played, just x/c flop. Flatting this type of hand here doesn't completely cap our x/c range and our hand does not need a lot of protection vs our opponent's range.
 
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4Bing to 1500 pre and calling off a 5B shove. As played, just x/c flop. Flatting this type of hand here doesn't completely cap our x/c range and our hand does not need a lot of protection vs our opponent's range.

I really think I like check-raising more. I think it puts your opponent in a more ambiguous spot and puts them at risk of making a bigger mistake. Also, nubs don't like to feel like they're being tested and will fight back out of sheer stubbornness.

Ha, I know you from Carbon. I'm bionicdonk there.
 
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PokerStars Tournament $0.91+$0.09 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) ante 10
Table 9-max Seat #4 is the button

Seat 1: HERO (MP) (5245 in chips)
Seat 2: MP+1 (2803 in chips)
Seat 3: CO (4620 in chips)
Seat 4: BTN (5094 in chips)
Seat 5: SB (1510 in chips)
Seat 6: BB (3496 in chips)
Seat 7: UTG (322 in chips)
Seat 8: UTG+1 (4417 in chips)
Seat 9: UTG+2 (1386 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to HERO :qd4: :qc4:

folds, folds, folds, HERO: to 200, folds, folds, BTN: raises to 600, folds, folds, HERO: calls 400

*** FLOP *** :2d4: :qh4: :10d4:

HERO: checks, BTN: bets 475, HERO: raises to 1700, BTN thinks a minute and folds

HERO collected 2390 from pot

How would you play on this flop, I think that I was wrong, maybe I should play slowly and just call his bet on flop, not raise, and wait turn and river and collect all his chips??
Hi. I would have checked also on the flop to induce a bet. However, I would have just called his 475 bet with the intentions of acting weak. Then I would have put in a bet of around 1800 to 2200 on the Turn. If Villain reraised me on the Turn, I would shove, if he just calls, I would shove on the river regardless. I hope this helps :cool:
 
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4Bing to 1500 pre and calling off a 5B shove. As played, just x/c flop. Flatting this type of hand here doesn't completely cap our x/c range and our hand does not need a lot of protection vs our opponent's range.
Very well said.
 
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You played that well . You might have been able to get a little more out of him if you played a little slower , but then you take a chance on him hitting a straight or flush and beating you . Well done .
 
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Your move was fine in this spot. He could call you with 1010+. Also you protected your value against AK and flush draws.
 
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