$1 NLHE STT: AKo in OP with TopTop on a flop against A5o call station IP

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It was 3rd hand at the beginning of SNG and unfortunately no stats for any of opponents. Although later i had noticed that CO is totally call station, who was in pot like 89% of hands and always with a limp.

UTG+1: 2,300
MP: 1,500
MP+1: 1,500
Hero (MP+2): 1,490
CO: 880
BTN: 1,470
SB: 1,360
BB: 1,500
UTG: 1,500

SB posts SB 10, BB posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has K<font color='red'>♦</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font>

UTG raises to 60, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 180, CO calls 180, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (450, 2 players) 3<font color='red'>♦</font> K<font color='black'>♣</font> 2<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (450, 2 players) 7<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero bets 150, CO calls 150

River: (750, 2 players) 4<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero bets 200, CO raises to 550 and is all-in, Hero calls 350

Hero shows K<font color='red'>♦</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font> (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 72%, Flop 84%, Turn 93%)
CO shows A<font color='red'>♥</font> 5<font color='black'>♠</font> (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 28%, Flop 16%, Turn 7%)
CO wins 1,850

I feel that i was playing that hand way too passively, as i tried to hide the strength of my hand, when i hitted TopTop on the flop with backdoor flush draw possibility. But in the end it played against me. How would you play those?
 
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You have enough hands to balance a value bet on the flop with. I guess you can go for the check and that would have to be specifically with AK's with one diamond in them, but on these stakes I think you can safely value + protection bet on the flop. Would bet about a third to set up turn shove.

Turn is fine I guess. As you have a diamond you don't need too much protection so there's definitely some merit to betting small here. SPR is kinda awkward as well.

Value shove river. As played I think it's fine to call river, people do a lot of crazy shit on micros and you're getting more than 4 to 1. Unfortunate he somehow hit a three-outer there.
 
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Bet 150 on flop, shove river.
 
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Bet flop 1/2 pot, maybe you can get villain to shove with a flush draw or worse K. 3rd hand, tough to get a feel, but he has 850, you must of seen one hand he lost...

TPTK, vs a person who is very likely a fish, bet for value.
 
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do you pefer smaller sizing even with the two diamonds on the flop? definitely betting this flop though
Yes, it's a very dry board and I'd be using this sizing regardless of what my hand is.

It gives us room to bet on later streets and this is a flop where we have a huge range advantage.
 
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Yes, it's a very dry board and I'd be using this sizing regardless of what my hand is.

It gives us room to bet on later streets and this is a flop where we have a huge range advantage.

makes sense, i guess im used to the traditional wisdom of betting 2/3s to price out flush draws, but perhaps that's not always relevant? im still trying to figure out the right way to think about bet sizing on these kinds of flops
 
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makes sense, i guess im used to the traditional wisdom of betting 2/3s to price out flush draws, but perhaps that's not always relevant? im still trying to figure out the right way to think about bet sizing on these kinds of flops


Don't get blinded if there's two of the same suit on a flop. It doesn't mean your opponent has those suits in his hand as well, it actually reduces that chance. And the one time your opponent has diamonds in this spot and he calls, you still have an 80% chance he doesn't improve on the turn. Of every chip he puts in the middle with his diamonds on the flop, 0.8 is yours. Awesome!
 
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makes sense, i guess im used to the traditional wisdom of betting 2/3s to price out flush draws, but perhaps that's not always relevant? im still trying to figure out the right way to think about bet sizing on these kinds of flops
Betting 2/3rd pot on these types of flops would be terrible on a lot of flops in MTT situations. Now, if the board is super wet (i.e. 987sss) and we have a hand such as QsQx, then that is a great example of a situation where going 2/3rd pot would be much better as our opponent's worse hands that will call likely have a lot of equity that we need to deny. Larger stack depths also warrant larger cbet sizings for obvious reasons.

The argument of betting 2/3rd pot on flops to price out flush draws on these types of boards does not make a lot of sense.Your opponent must have 2 suited cards of the suit that is on the board, very unlikely in the first place.

The main reason for betting small in these types of situations is, it gives us more room to play on future streets and in general our opponent will overfold these flops to a small sizing and in general will make more mistakes given how weak his range is and he is OOP, we also don't need to deny a lot of equity, a diamond only hits the turn 16% of the time if our opponent has a flush draw.
 
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1/2-pot bet is good start on the flop. It will show what your opponent is ready. If your opponents calls, the turn would give you a danger indication for a possible flush. I would play a little more careful in this situation if he already called the flop (with 8 positive outs in his cards).
He probably would try to hit you in the river with something and as you already is committed enough, you probably would pay. Your chance is that he folds on the flop after your bet, but as we saw him and as you mentioned his future plays, he will probably would pay you even 2/3 pot bet.
 
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