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https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/6a1zEumh nu știu ce să mai spun, I had to give it all in preflop

This hand is a cooler for sure as we get in the exact spot we are hoping to get into. With 13 BBs and JJ here you need to just rip over the over jam stack. There is no reason to get cute here in my opinion by betting only half your stack when you are this short and there has already been a lot of money put in the pot in front of you. The flop was not good for you (we didnt know villains cards yet) and you jam anyway which was the correct thing to do but I am saying if you know you will be jamming any flop then just jam it pre flop. If the Over caller is going to call a raise to 39k, they will also be calling an all in jam of 77k. There might be some opponent (doubt this but why risk it) that might see the 39k raise as a huge sign of strength and would fold to 39k and but would see your all in as weaker and call the 77k. I probably doubt that but again, why take the chance when you know you are committed anyway. Just rip it in that spot.

Agree with 300HPGOD, its a cooler, remember if 1/3 of your stacks will be in, its better to shove it preflop.

When you are 100bb deep you can flat the jacks for 16bb - easy spot. When we 3bet and go to this flop with two overs - we are RARELY ever ahead here - so when we shove are are typically only getting called by better. The fact your opponent stacked off with 88s is astounding and shows just how bad they really are. The runout is a cooler, nothing you can do - but shoving the flop here is a HUGE mistake. Not many 3b call ranges for 60bb are going to be underpairs to JJs...

Poorly played JJ (overplayed) - runout is a cooler - thats the short conclusion.

I think you played the hand fine and got incredibly unlucky.

This is a pretty awkward spot, because someone has jammed for 16BB, and a player, with which hero is more than 100BB deep, has already called, and hero is out of position against him. I think, there is not a whole lot of value lost in the long run by just getting out of the way and looking for a better spot. And if we are going to play the hand, I think, we need to just call and then play pretty straight forward after the flop. Which mean mostly just looking to get out, when we see a flop like this with two overcards.

The other option is to jam preflop for our full 130BB stack. We can use ICMizer to explore that play, which I did. I had to ignore the limpers, because otherwise there is to much action for the program to handle. The answer from ICMizer is, that jamming is close to neutral EV. This however is assuming, that CO only call with AA and KK. If he call slightly wider with QQ+, AK, then jamming is a losing play. If he call even wider down to hands like 77-88, AQ, AJ, then jamming becomes profitable. But we probably did not know this in advance, so jamming here is a questionable play. And 3-betting for half our stacks is essentially the same as jamming.

In conclusion hero got it in good and got outdrawn, so on the surface it might look like, this was just bad luck. However for ICM-reasons we should tend to stay away from these massive pots against other chip-leaders as much as possible, unless we have near the nuts, which is not quite the case with JJ preflop.

I can´t identify who are you, so i will give an opinion about the 3 players. First is the guy with 10 blinds who made a standard play, nothing to say about that he was short, had to shove. The guy in the button made a standard call too since he had much more blinds than the the first to shove, but after the raise he was fully clown, should never have paid that. The one in the small blind was the only one who mistook preflop in my opinion, even if he were to raise that raise was too much especially on a guy who have the stack to pay and the all in after that was worst, cause he could have a beeter hand than yours or even if he had AKs or AQs is not worth to gamble in that stage of the tourney with the stack you had.

300HPGOD said:

This hand is a cooler for sure as we get in the exact spot we are hoping to get into. With 13 BBs and JJ here you need to just rip over the over jam stack. There is no reason to get cute here in my opinion by betting only half your stack when you are this short and there has already been a lot of money put in the pot in front of you. The flop was not good for you (we didnt know villains cards yet) and you jam anyway which was the correct thing to do but I am saying if you know you will be jamming any flop then just jam it pre flop. If the Over caller is going to call a raise to 39k, they will also be calling an all in jam of 77k. There might be some opponent (doubt this but why risk it) that might see the 39k raise as a huge sign of strength and would fold to 39k and but would see your all in as weaker and call the 77k. I probably doubt that but again, why take the chance when you know you are committed anyway. Just rip it in that spot.

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He had 130bb not 13.

It's hard to say anything without information about the opponents.

If the players are that bad (calling with 88), just go all in PF.

I would have check-folded the flop. With 60+ BB remaining, you still have plenty of life in the tournament and the big stacks are on your right.

Not too many hands weaker than JJ would call the big 3-bet preflop and the bet on the flop. I was pretty stunned when the CO turned over 88.

When CO have a big stack like you, and entered to play the hand, then you should to know that he can get out you of the tourny, so you should play each hand with him carefully
I think that jacks is a weak hand to play preflop, but if you decide to play it, then you could do it in three differents ways.

One way is fold preflop, when the another big stack is in the hand, to dont take a risk.

Second way is call to the 3 bet preflop, like CO made and see the flop to try to catch a set, then check/ fold, with two over pairs at the flop.

And the other way to play when you decided play the jacks is go allin when the CO call the 3 bet preflop, and dont let him to see and play another street, the flop in this case, get him out of the hand with any low pair.

It s good to take in count that when your bets is higher of 1/3 of your stack then you should to push with all your stack, its a rule that can help you.
Thats I think about it. Good luck the next time!

I want to play some tournament of the series, I will try with some satellites.
Good luck to everyone! :top: