$1 NLHE MTT Rebuy: Final table hand...

rikoberto

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Hey forum guys..i had (finally) after many days a FT..Finished 2nd and i have note many interesting hands to post from whole MTT..so lets start with a hand from FT..How u would play it on flop?

PokerStars - 8500/17000 Ante 2125 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 23.05 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 16.11, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 151)
SB: 30.56 BB (VPIP: 21.59, PFR: 15.91, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 90)
Hero (BB): 59.46 BB
UTG: 27.78 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 13.11, 3Bet Preflop: 1.49, Hands: 188)
CO: 74.75 BB (VPIP: 48.00, PFR: 29.33, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 79)

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 3.31 BB, SB calls 2.31 BB

Flop: (7.25 BB, 2 players) J Q 7
SB bets 7.25 BB, Hero raises to 56.02 BB and is all-in, SB calls 19.86 BB and is all-in

Turn: (61.49 BB, 2 players) 8

River: (61.49 BB, 2 players) 6

[spoil]SB shows J Q (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Pre 34%, Flop 58%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows A K (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 66%, Flop 42%, Turn 25%)
SB wins 61.49 BB
[/spoil]
 
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all in is not mistake. I would play the same way as u in this hand
 
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Since he only has 27bbs back after calling the raise preflop his full pot (7bb) lead out on the flop puts you in an awkward situation.

I'm not sure there is any fold equity after his bet, but if there is you should be raising. Against most players you have enough outs to continue, especially since it is blind vs. blind and they could do this with any pair.

I like how you played it based on your stack sizes, but if you were deeper I'd just call the flop with position and decide based on bet size on the turn.

Congrats on 2nd and good luck to you! :D
 
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Villain is rarely folding with a full pot donk but I have seen it happen before, which makes your play more than fine. NHWP, shove is the only option. WP.
 
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Odds tell the story

Hey forum guys..i had (finally) after many days a FT..Finished 2nd and i have note many interesting hands to post from whole MTT..so lets start with a hand from FT..How u would play it on flop?

PokerStars - 8500/17000 Ante 2125 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 23.05 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 16.11, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 151)
SB: 30.56 BB (VPIP: 21.59, PFR: 15.91, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 90)
Hero (BB): 59.46 BB
UTG: 27.78 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 13.11, 3Bet Preflop: 1.49, Hands: 188)
CO: 74.75 BB (VPIP: 48.00, PFR: 29.33, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 79)

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 3.31 BB, SB calls 2.31 BB

Flop: (7.25 BB, 2 players) J Q 7
SB bets 7.25 BB, Hero raises to 56.02 BB and is all-in, SB calls 19.86 BB and is all-in

Turn: (61.49 BB, 2 players) 8

River: (61.49 BB, 2 players) 6

[spoil]SB shows J Q (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Pre 34%, Flop 58%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows A K (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 66%, Flop 42%, Turn 25%)
SB wins 61.49 BB
[/spoil]

Pot odds: Hero needs direct pot odds to make this call which is 3:1 or better, I preferably like 4:1 or better.

On the flop when villain bet 7.25 BB's into a pot that had 6.62 BB's in it giving Hero 1.09 pot odds. Hero clearly does not have pot odds to make it profitable in the long run so he can't call with just pot odds.

Pot odds vs. Hand odds, were Pot odds need to be more than Hand odds to make it profitable in long run. Hand odds are calculated using outs and only for the next card not the turn and the river, I use the rule of 2 as a quick cheat. For every out above 8 one must subtract 1 from the percentage.

Hero has 9 spades and 3 non-spade Tens as outs giving him a total of 12 outs. So using the rule of 2 we get a total percentage of 20% (12*2 - 4). as our Pot odds are not in a percentage we convert our hand percentage into odds as so, we have 20% chance to hit a card we need, and 80% chance we won't get the card we need. We write this in odd form as 80:20 or 4:1.

As our Pot odds need to be higher than our Hand odds we can not call this way either as our Pot odds are only 1.09:1 and Hand odds are 4:1.

What about implied odds? A short cut to implied odds is take the Hand odds of 4:1, using the 4 we multiply it by the BB and get 68K in chips which is the amount we need to get out of the Villain on future streets to make this profitable in the long run.

The larger than pot sized bet polarized the Villains hand ranged. Meaning, he either had nothing or had a very strong hand, top pair top kicker or better. Hero has only played in 90 hands with Villain and that isn't a large enough set of data to be accurate.

As the Villain called Hero's large Raise Pre-Flop I would put him on about 5% to 7% of hands, which the flop hit.
When we do not get our pot odds higher than our Hand odds but we can know we can get implied odds on Villain a Call would be the prudent play. If we didn't hit on the turn and Villain bet into Hero again we should make a fold!:(

Regards,
GiGiCat:)
 
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i would call flop and see how it goes on the turn. Agree with GiGiCat.

Congrats on your second place!:icon_thum
 
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