$1 NLHE MTT: FT Chipleader with QQ facing action from 3rd stack

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UTG+1 already limped and called shove at this table once, so CO 3betting me is basically being ready to go against 2 players. What should I have done on flop, facing huge contbet? Villain general cont bet was 60, in 3bet pots - 0 out of 2 samples (I know not much info).




888 Poker - 8000/16000 Ante 2000 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (MP): 103.27 BB
CO: 61.32 BB (VPIP: 39.44, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, hands: 72)
BTN: 37.84 BB (VPIP: 28.13, PFR: 15.87, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 66)
SB: 43.27 BB (VPIP: 41.63, PFR: 14.01, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 210)
BB: 69.65 BB (VPIP: 19.85, PFR: 11.03, 3Bet Preflop: 1.92, Hands: 138)
UTG: 35.86 BB (VPIP: 19.12, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 24.00, Hands: 69)
UTG+1: 15.98 BB (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 25)


7 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 2.37 BB) Hero has Q:spade: Q:heart:


fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 8 BB


Flop: (27.37 BB, 2 players) 2:club: 5:diamond: 3:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets 20.53 BB


If you need know prize distribution:




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it could be KK/AA, but a 39/21 player usually hold AK here - so im shoving that cbet

*folding 4bb pre is ok too w/ that prize distribution
 
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You could try to 4bet him preflop. On that kind of flop he representing cards like AQ+ or more often overpairs. His c-bet sizing is huge because he probably don't want to see some high card, like Q+ and he could have 99 or TT JJ, but he also could scared only A with his KK in hand. If You have here hand like AJ or AQ, he want to play big c-bet because with small bet You will often call because os 2 overcards and gutshot... This is hard spot. I would call his c-bet...
 
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I would be shoving there, pretty much the only hands in his range you are beaten by is KK/AA. I wouldn't think that A4 would be in his range with his raise on the flop. If you fold in this spot (thinking they have KK/AA) you are susceptible to being bluffed far too much, and if you call you leave yourself in a tough spot if a K, A or 4 shows up on the turn or river.
 
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Imo I think you should 4bet preflop here. QQ vs. his 3bet range has 56% equity but I think he could be playing a little wider here being the big stack. As you played it though on the river that is almost always a check-shove against his cbet. I think the only flop you aren't shoving on here is something with an A or K.
 
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I really disliked how I played this hand, and it started with preflop. Thanks guys, I also think I should have to 4 bet there. Later this game became full of 4bets and 5bets, was relatively not that aggressive before this hand.
 
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A check-raise all-in looks like the propper play given his preflop raise ratio. Although he doesnt 3-bet very often. The difference between raising and 3-betting is a big one. A tight player might 3-bet preflops often because he only plays a certain range. In this players case it looks like he raises a lot, but does not 3- bet a lot. What that tells me is that he is an aggressive player but that doesn't mean hes a maniac. A preflop fold sounds crazy with a hand like QQ so obviously taking a flop isn't a bad decision. But in my tournament history I find I lose most often with a hand like queens on a board where Queens look essentially like a monster. But from his 3-bet, I would highly consider the fact that you can go from chip leader to bottom of the pack over a hand that looks dangerous to begin with. So my suggestion would've been to push all in preflop if you wanted to play it at all, or toss it in and just forget about it. It's not the end of the world to throw away queens to a 3-bet. QQs and JJs I are my kyrptonite because I feel obgliated to play them preflop.
 
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You could try to 4bet him preflop. On that kind of flop he representing cards like AQ+ or more often overpairs. His c-bet sizing is huge because he probably don't want to see some high card, like Q+ and he could have 99 or TT JJ, but he also could scared only A with his KK in hand. If You have here hand like AJ or AQ, he want to play big c-bet because with small bet You will often call because os 2 overcards and gutshot... This is hard spot. I would call his c-bet...

Imo I think you should 4bet preflop here. QQ vs. his 3bet range has 56% equity but I think he could be playing a little wider here being the big stack. As you played it though on the river that is almost always a check-shove against his cbet. I think the only flop you aren't shoving on here is something with an A or K.
I agree with the above posters, 4-betting preflop with QQ should have been the direction you took but as played, put opponent all-in on this flop.
 
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When you call preflop with QQ, check/shoving on this flop is the right play.
 
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call to play out of position is hard. As Played, shoving.
 
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I think a 4 bet fold to shove is the play preflop. As played the flop is unlikely to have hit her. So what she had going in is what she has now. Would you bet 3/4 pot with AA or KK into that low board? I won't. Gotta re-raise shove.
 
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Minimum 4 bet pre flop, fold to a 5 bet all in. Only hands that will 5 bet shove are AA, KK, AK suited. Some players may do this with AK off as well, but still just 3 hands take this line
 
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