$1.10 NLHE MTT: Tough spot with TPTP on dry board. Is there a fold here?

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partypoker - 2000/4000 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 21.02 BB (VPIP: 43.33, PFR: 23.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 30)
BB: 62.3 BB (VPIP: 30.23, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG: 85.79 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 66.75 BB
BTN: 25.45 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 8)

5 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has A:diamond: K:club:

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.8 BB, UTG calls 1.8 BB

Flop: (9.4 BB, 3 players) A:spade: Q:spade: 3:club:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 3.76 BB, fold, UTG calls 3.76 BB

Turn: (16.92 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
UTG bets 23 BB, Hero raises to 60.09 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 37.09 BB

River: (137.1 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:

UTG shows J:heart: Q:heart: (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 40%, Flop 18%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows A:diamond: K:club: (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 60%, Flop 82%, Turn 5%)
UTG wins 137.1 BB







Board is fairly dry, only AQ, QQ, KQ, QJ, QT (how often does someone limp/call with these hands) and 33 beats us... Can't really call because would leave behind roughly 37 BBs with a ~70 BB pot, committing myself to the flop. Either shove or fold.

How often someone donks turn with trips/boats here? For such a massive size. I talked myself on him playing a draw really aggressively. Bizarre hand that I decided to jam here because there's too much value to give up on such a weird play, so... I guess I was wrong. Am i really a total idiot for playing back such an overbet from a p-fish? Man I feel completely stupid.


Is there a fold here? i'd really like some ICM input.
 
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Raise more preflop, your opponent probably would have folded preflop but who knows for a $1.10 MTT.
 
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Making it 3.5x pre here.

Flop sizing should be 50-66% pot.

Turn is a snap fold. I struggle to see what worse your opponent has here when he overbets this turn. Especially against a fish, you are pretty much never up against a draw here.
 
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A friend of mine! It's hard to comment! Do you have a mistake! A lot of them! Starting from the understanding of the game and finishing the size of bets!
You need to delve into what you play? That's poker! if you want to win you need to be serious about your stack!
 
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partypoker - 2000/4000 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 21.02 BB (VPIP: 43.33, PFR: 23.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BB: 62.3 BB (VPIP: 30.23, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG: 85.79 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 66.75 BB
BTN: 25.45 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 8)

5 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has A<font color='red'>♦</font> K<font color='black'>♣</font>

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.8 BB, UTG calls 1.8 BB

Flop: (9.4 BB, 3 players) A<font color='black'>♠</font> Q<font color='black'>♠</font> 3<font color='black'>♣</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 3.76 BB, fold, UTG calls 3.76 BB

Turn: (16.92 BB, 2 players) Q<font color='red'>♦</font>
UTG bets 23 BB, Hero raises to 60.09 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 37.09 BB

River: (137.1 BB, 2 players) 4<font color='red'>♦</font>

UTG shows J<font color='red'>♥</font> Q<font color='red'>♥</font> (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 40%, Flop 18%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows A<font color='red'>♦</font> K<font color='black'>♣</font> (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 60%, Flop 82%, Turn 5%)
UTG wins 137.1 BB







Board is fairly dry, only AQ, QQ, KQ, QJ, QT (how often does someone limp/call with these hands) and 33 beats us... Can't really call because would leave behind roughly 37 BBs with a ~70 BB pot, committing myself to the flop. Either shove or fold.

How often someone donks turn with trips/boats here? For such a massive size. I talked myself on him playing a draw really aggressively. Bizarre hand that I decided to jam here because there's too much value to give up on such a weird play, so... I guess I was wrong. Am i really a total idiot for playing back such an overbet from a p-fish? Man I feel completely stupid.


Is there a fold here? i'd really like some ICM input.

MTT 1.1 is far from optimal play!
The level of players is very low!
 
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you drag on the turn! And you let it! Not only that! You also have paid it! In this case, look for a mistake in your game!
 
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