$1.10 NLHE MTT Bounty: Missed value on river?

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He makes a straight and then checks turn and river? Not likely. He might check 2 pair once the straight comes, and you're not likely getting a call from a lower pair so I don't see what you gain from betting. You just open yourself up to a check raise. As played, id check the river every time. Some better players might have more insight into how to play flop and turn differently but i think it worked out pretty good in the end. You charged the draw and got good value, i think its fine.
 
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I think the preflop raise is ok.
The flop and turn bets seem also good to me, even though he might have made the straight there and just slowplay it.
Still you have a good hand there with top pair second kicker, straight draw + overcard.
Sizing seems to be fine to me, maybe on the small size but agreeable.
On the river, however, I would have just checked.
Like Gerb said, there is not a lot of worse hands that will call on a board like this, and you put yourself at risk to face a big raise.
 
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Like Gerb said, there is not a lot of worse hands that will call on a board like this, and you put yourself at risk to face a big raise.

2 streets of value is the most you are getting here.

By betting on the turn you are taking the same risk as you would be betting on the river.

You could almost argue to play check check turn, and call a decent amount of river bets. Although, once he check calls turn, you are rarely extracting any value out of worse hands from this point on.
 
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Larger pre, making it 320 this deep.

Would go 350 on flop, b/f turn is fine, river is an easy check unless V is a massive station, in which case I would bet 600-700
 
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Larger pre, making it 320 this deep.

Would go 350 on flop, b/f turn is fine, river is an easy check unless V is a massive station, in which case I would bet 600-700

What's the point of making it lager pre? That will leave me almost always behind preflop I think.
 
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What's the point of making it lager pre? That will leave me almost always behind preflop I think.

It's a limped in pot. Your looks like a standard button open. BB has great odds to defend with a wide range, and utg can make an easy call to make this a tricky 3way pot.

You'ld probably open for 3bb this wide as the initial actor. The logic is generally 3x open (deapstacked) +1bb per limper.
 
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What's the point of making it lager pre? That will leave me almost always behind preflop I think.

Rarely will UTG be limp/folding here this deep stacked. We can take advantage of this by ISO-raising larger so we can extract more value and play a bigger pot against a weak range in position with a pretty good hand.

As Dwarf stated above, this also prices out the big blind.
 
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to answer question no you did not miss value on river a check is the right play there.
9 is probably raising turn
I would check turn as well you were lucky to get a call there from a worst hand and you will get bluffed off of that hand a lot from better players (the limp call preflop with that piece of cheese indicates he is not a good player)
 
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