$1.10 NLHE MTT: AQo UTG+1 mid stage micro

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Wow this is nasty! I guess this one depends on what our river plan was, to bet/call or bet/fold Since I wont be dead Im tempted to call but knowing Im probably beat.

Interesting hand, I dont know if betting the turn is better here and if get called again, do we feel its weighted more toward tp or one of the draws

but that a gutsy bluff and wouldnt get too involved with this player again, if thats how he played it LOL

Id like to hear from some more experienced player.

EDIT- This hand is on my mind, now I think I convinced myself I have to fold on the river I got to relook at the hand He called pf - called flop - checked turn and raised river. that is strong. Interesting hand
 
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Thanks for your input ZenGreen! Always nice to have extra pairs of eyes for painful situations like this.

More input is still very much welcome!
 
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Preflop I would raise to 3x-3.5x.
UTG+2 and later positions have very good odds to call here.

Flop cbet should be larger (60-80% pot) given flush draw and straight possibilities.

Turn card is scary, sometimes I would like to fire second bullet to make flush drawers fold their hands. But I don't mind check/fold here.

River bet is like a thin value bet and a bit weak, maybe you will get called by QJ, KJ however villain raised to all in. Obviously he can have JT,Q9, less likely KQ,77 but I think it is a perfect spot for busted flush draw to raise-bluff.
 
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Raising in EP and getting two callers, I do not like you c bet on the flop. This board hits the callers range too hard. KQ, KJ, KT, JT, 77, any suited heart hand. To me this is a check fold on the flop.
 
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I think your river fold is good, although I don't hate a call. Given villain's position preflop they probably have a decent hand. They could definitely have your pair beat. The c-bet on the flop is good, maybe just check the river but the raise is fine.
 
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See my question here is, once he bets on the river, is he priced in to have to make that call. since villan is so short

this why initially I thought you would call on the river since you already are in and have a good deal of equity with full expectation to be beat

like I said interesting hand
 
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Preflop I would raise to 3x-3.5x.
UTG+2 and later positions have very good odds to call here.

Flop cbet should be larger (60-80% pot) given flush draw and straight possibilities.

Turn card is scary, sometimes I would like to fire second bullet to make flush drawers fold their hands. But I don't mind check/fold here.

River bet is like a thin value bet and a bit weak, maybe you will get called by QJ, KJ however villain raised to all in. Obviously he can have JT,Q9, less likely KQ,77 but I think it is a perfect spot for busted flush draw to raise-bluff.

Raising 3x to 3.5x would help solve quick calls to see a flop. I like the continuation bet or a check/raise to see if Villain is bluffing. Villain would certainly hang around with any K or ties to a Str8 :pcguru:
 
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Problem that you did not create a line for intelligent hand.

Out of position, if she has checked the turn, have to check the river, the bet is horrible.
If you believe the flush draws, makes a bet on the turn of 1.2K and analyze the river.

Now how easy was played for the villain shove river because he is sure that you do not have to K. that bet on the river and shovou any2.
 
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Thanks everyone, for all the insight! I appreciate it a lot :D
 
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This is how I would have played it.

Pre-flop - Slightly bigger raise. (I would do 2.5X with my entire range in general from UTG+1 in generic situations)
Flop - C-Bet slightly bigger. (You did 1/3, I would have done around 38-40%)

Turn- Not a good card for us so checking makes perfect sense.

River - CHECK. No point in betting here. Very rarely will villain call with a worse hand and with second pair top kicker we have a decent bluff catcher (missed flush draws in this case although you having the Qh makes it little less likely they had a flush draw).
By betting you will mostly fold out missed draws, get calls from KX and get shoved on by better hands (two pairs, sets or straights...In this case the way the hand played out I think he either had J10 or 77/99).

I would check that river and call depending on the raise size. (Anything less than 1/2 pot I am most likely cry calling). Any unusually large bet (like close to pot or an all in I am of course folding).

P.S These are all generic things I would have done, without any extra info from HUD/Notes or otherwise.
 
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Exactly my assessment of the situation. No point c-betting big on the flop - he is never folding a K or a good draw so keep the pot small. Checking turn is great and check/calling river spending on size of bet is fine. Villain isn’t representing much - maybe j10 which he slow played turn or K9.
 
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to my point of view, totally wrong played on the turn, if you are going to bet you have to go with everything on the river.
You had QQ if you did not think you would risk with that hand then pull it on the flop and that's it.
 
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