$025 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: $0,25 SnG: Weird hand (How would you play?)

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pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.25 Tournament, 150/300 Blinds 25 Ante (8 handed)

SB (t9,279)
BB (t6,503)
UTG (Vilain) (t6,566)
UTG1 (t12,229)
MP (t9,828)
Hijack (t9,840)
Cutoff (t12,429)
BTN (Hero) (t10,608)


Preflop: Hero is BTN with Kh, Jd
Vilain calls t300, 4 folds, Hero raises to t683, 2 folds, UTG calls t383

Flop: (t2,016) 8s, 7s, 6d (2 players)
Vilain (t5,858) checks, Hero (t9,900) bets t950, UTG calls

Turn: (t3,916) Jh
Vilain (t4,908) checks, Hero (t8,950) checks

River: (t3,916) 2c
Vilain (t4,908) bets t3,900, Hero (t8,950) folds
Total pot: t7,816


I coudn't find the tournament ID to convert the hand history but I did share it on Boom. To avoid any problem I had to write the whole hand :stupid: . Because of that it may contain some errors.

This is a 90 players regular speed $0,25 SnG. I think that it's on the semifinal table. This player that I'm involved with on this hand just arrived on the table. I didn't have any information about how he plays at that moment.

He limps on UTG and everyone else folds, I'm in position with KJ, a reasonable hand to play. At this point I think that his range could have some low-middle pairs, some suited connectors (67, 78, 89, 910, J10), some High card with a weak kicker but I don't discard AA and KK that he could trap. I see some players at these stakes doing that.

I think that his range could be a lot wider than that, without information about him this is what I think that he could have based on my observations about the field in general.

So, I raise, he calls. The flop hits a lot of his range that I think that he might have, and thinking about that now, I don't think that it's a good ideia to cbet on that flop, but at the moment I thought that I could make some weak pairs to fold and some random Ah with weak kicker.

He calls and the turn is a good card for me, giving me top pair with good kicker.

I decided to check, thinking again about that I think it's better to bet and extract some value from some sort of draw (flush draw), a 5, 9 that has and open ended and a 10 that could also call.
I decided to check because that board hits a lot of his range that could have 2p or better (even a weaker J) and I had no reason to bluff, also that a weaker pair could fold if I bet.
I had showdown value and was trying to make my hand to look like a bluff, keeping his range wide to induce agression on the river from draws that could not hit. I could also make a small bet on the river to extract value from weaker pair that could want to hero call in case that he wouldn't bet.

The river brings a 2c, unless that he had pocket 2's, that card didn't change anything. I was expecting a bet on the river because my hand was looking like a bluff and when it happens I see a lot of agression because of that at these SnG's. Though he leads by betting the pot, leaving 3bb behind.
I think that he could have some missed draws and was trying to bluff me off the hand and that huge bet was really looking like a bluff.

For the rason that I had no information about him and that I thought that his range could have a lot of 2p hands I decided to fold, It was a weird hand that I think that I didn't play well.

How would you play this hand? What do you think that he had?
 
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I would bet turn and call it off to a shove. Also if I somehow happen to check turn as you did I would call river by checking you give him a wide range . But that's just me and how I play, there was nothing wrong with the conservative line you took to preserve your chipstack when approaching the final table.
I believe that you would have called a half pot or so bet.
You didn't have any information on him and way they hand played out he could have anything. A random bluff, a missed draw, a straight, a set, an overpair, a funky two pair hand, one pair.
 
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I feel you played every street of this hand wrong.

Why are we iso-raising so small pre? The goal of an "iso-raise" is to isolate a limper and get to a flop in position w/ him. You should be iso-raising at least 3-3.5bb in position here to price out the other players.

Check flop. This board does not hit your range at all and nails his.

Turn is a must bet. His flop x/c range is loaded with draws and pair/draws that aren't folding. I'd make it like 1.8-1.9k here, checking only allows your opponent a free river when there's a lot of bad river cards that can roll off.

River is a snap call. Your opponent is representing a nutted hand or complete air here and your range is extremely weak given how you played the hand and the board texture. I'd actually weight him more towards bluffs here given it doesn't make a ton of sense to bet so large with a value hand against a range that is so weak.

Every single draw missed here and your opponents value hands here are like, T9/87s/76s/54s while also having a huge number of bluffs (missed spades, 9x, even some weak 1 pair type hands potentially). I am positive you are good here more than the 33% of the time you need to be.
 
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I would check the flop, bet the turn, definitive call on the river for me.
 
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Preflop:
This would be my preference and not really me saying play this way always.
I would have called and seen the flop since you have position on him.
The fact he is a unknown and opening UTG is something that should slow you down,he is either a bad player or he is up to something that you may not want to see on the river. So my play would have been to just call.

Flop:
Due to the small raise by you on the preflop a cbet is looking like a turn check where he can just take the pot,you are just donating at this point to the pot he is going to steal.
Continuing with my line of preflop check,I would have checked flop as well,it allows you to then re-steal when he bets the turn thinking he can steal with ace high. The board is super drawy and therefore a check would appear likely on the flop if you had a draw as well. So the steal he makes would most likely be for not when you raised back at him.
Turn:
So you came around to the line I would have pulled on the flop at this point you have lost the pot and there is little that you could do to change that aspect.

The only line I would endorse is if you checked the flop and turn and he made a bet/steal and you come over top. Anything after that is dead money.

Its really hard to put you on 9Tos and the flush never got there. You need to maybe look at the board more and not your hand and practice stealing. It will really help your game as you learn where you can do it and where others try to do it.
 
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I feel you played every street of this hand wrong.

Why are we iso-raising so small pre? The goal of an "iso-raise" is to isolate a limper and get to a flop in position w/ him. You should be iso-raising at least 3-3.5bb in position here to price out the other players.

Check flop. This board does not hit your range at all and nails his.

Turn is a must bet. His flop x/c range is loaded with draws and pair/draws that aren't folding. I'd make it like 1.8-1.9k here, checking only allows your opponent a free river when there's a lot of bad river cards that can roll off.

River is a snap call. Your opponent is representing a nutted hand or complete air here and your range is extremely weak given how you played the hand and the board texture. I'd actually weight him more towards bluffs here given it doesn't make a ton of sense to bet so large with a value hand against a range that is so weak.

Every single draw missed here and your opponents value hands here are like, T9/87s/76s/54s while also having a huge number of bluffs (missed spades, 9x, even some weak 1 pair type hands potentially). I am positive you are good here more than the 33% of the time you need to be.



Agree.. My sizebet was a bit too small preflop to isolate, but the blinds was tight players and I had a good image on the table. But I prefer making it bigger.

I also prefer check flop and bet turn.

As played river was a weird decison. It's micro limits and he could have anything and my perceived range was very weak.

As I said I think I played this hand badly, that's why I posted here.
 
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