$0.55 NLHE MTT: Decision with Aces..

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1st hand in new table,so i dont have any info about the villain..i will say my thoughts after listening your opinion,because i dont want to spoiler something..:)

PokerStars - 350/700 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 61.94 BB
UTG: 35.07 BB
UTG+1: 3.4 BB
MP: 91.12 BB
MP+1: 19.76 BB
Hero (MP+2): 46.37 BB
CO: 7.49 BB
BTN: 19.13 BB
SB: 73.04 BB

9 players post ante of 0.07 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.14 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 1.98 BB, BB calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (8.1 BB, 3 players) T 8 7
SB checks, BB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold

Turn: (14.1 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

River: (26.1 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 50.38 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero mucks A A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)

BB wins 26.1 BB
 
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I would have raised on turn. Villain often has 8 or some draw here with his less than 1/2 pot bets. Very strange that he shoved on river. Usually they don't play like this with really strong hand. No draws closed. Sometimes you can call, if he has high aggression on river and low showdown win.
 
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My thoughts about this hand are these...First of all in his lead range i think he can have value hands that beat me (77-88,78,T8s,J9) and hands that have a lot of equity against Aces in this flop(many straight draws,flush draws,gutshots,Tx with overcard or T9)..About turn I was thinking also about raise option.....Finally i choosed to call because as i didnt have any info about this villain,if i would raise something like 12k on the turn and get called,pot would be 34K and i would have 17K for river decision...Also i dont see that he has a lot of fold in this spot because all his semi bluffs have very good equity..On river i think 10 is very bad card for me even it doesnt complete any draw..he has a lot of 10x hands in his range that it would be reasonable to barell to protect his hand from my possible overcards and flush draws that i could call twice..ofc there are hands i beat on the river such as all his busted draws and his 78 that was favourite on flop..i needed 36% equity to do this call on river,but without any info about what player he is,i thought this shove was more for value so i decided to fold it...
 
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The way you played is fine. I would almost always play it like that and evaluate river based on opponent.
 
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Raise more preflop and reriase on the turn to see where the villain stands. With a less than 3X raise, the villain could have something marginal like K, 10.
 
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Nice fold for him to give these 3 shots there must be value for sure a sequence or crack easy fold that 10 is too bad for you.
 
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I think you saved yourself a lot of chips.He/she had probably the 10.Raise more preflop.
I would raise on the flop, but probably the ''i has top pair'' player would call.
Turn ''i has top pair'' checks i bet 70 - 80% pot, he/she calls.
River ''i has top pair'' made trips and shoves, i fold.
Chat: ''i has top pair and made trips'' posts fish image.
Welcome to the micros.
 
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Tough one with no data on the villain but the shove makes me suspect he had a hole card 10 with a potential missed straight draw.

I think this was a good lay down.
 
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Best to close down client when getting dealt AA on PS.

But seems he bluffed you of the best hand :p but I prolly would have raised flop here.
 
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I think you saved yourself a lot of chips.He/she had probably the 10.Raise more preflop.
I would raise on the flop, but probably the ''i has top pair'' player would call.
Turn ''i has top pair'' checks i bet 70 - 80% pot, he/she calls.
River ''i has top pair'' made trips and shoves, i fold.
Chat: ''i has top pair and made trips'' posts fish image.
Welcome to the micros.

hahaha..u really describe it optimal :D....Micros is a crazy crazy word :D...
 
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for me its a short bet postflop!!!..agresive value!!!
 
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Best to close down client when getting dealt AA on PS.

But seems he bluffed you of the best hand :p but I prolly would have raised flop here.

U will not believe it,but for a week(previous week actually) every first time i was dealing with Aces and Kings i was loosing it..every single time the first hand..villain would hit sets,trips,or some really ****ed up spot that i should check twice and went to showdown with worse hand...
Also u gave me the chance to say some statistic i have from my MTTs and its not nice at all...So i install again my PT4 at May 2017(after a format i did to my PC)...i had playing from May 84314 hands..i have dealing with Aces 347 times when probability is 0.45% so i should dealt around 379 times..a divergence around 8%...i dont say that its rigged ofc,but sample isnt small also..its a small sample which shows how ''good'' i run in general :D..Anyway enough with ''cries'' by myself..:D
 
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Move networks and say bye bye BS PS.

The prizepools look great and the software and number of games you can play also.

Just you must always ask yourself one thing , do you want to be(come) a winning player?

If the answer is yes leave PS
 
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it's human nature to think we're beat in situations like this

Unknown players use default play!

Pocket Ace's pre-flop raise was good if that was your normal.

Very coordinated board, but for the second biggest stack a prime candidate for bluffing.

On the Flop when Villain bet to 3 BB Hero should have raised to 9 BB (don't slow play Aces) so as to put villain through a meaningful decision.

This would have changed the dynamics of the Villains play and he/she may have folded giving you the pot. If he/she called that would be the time to re-evaluate your hand, but would have put you back in control.

As an unknown player if he/she re-raised a serious valuation of the very coordinated board should be looked at as well as your default hand ranges for an unknown player.

On the Flop there are many more hands that you beat than beat you. As is on the turn, the River changes, to you get beat by more hands than you beat. I put him on pocket pair, or two pair on Flop. 10Xs is definitely in his/her range as is 8/7s, however unlikely Pocket Aces are also in his range.

In poker one must think of the explicable, but must not forget about the inexplicable.

After the highly coordinated flop any all-in by Villain a fold is best play,

Regards,
GiGiCat:)
 
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