$0.25 NLHE STT Turbo: Calling Cbet on dry board with two overcards

poker stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t/t Blinds - 2 players

BB: t1000 50 BBs - VPIP: 53, PFR: 51, 3B: 35, AF: 8.0, hands: 47
Hero (BTN/SB): t500 25 BBs

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is BTN/SB with T ♠ 9 ♥
Hero raises to t30, BB raises to t60, Hero calls t30

Flop: (t120) 7 ♠ 7 ♣ 7 ♥ (2 players)
BB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t280) 9 ♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t280) J ♦ (2 players)
BB bets t180, Hero raises to t340, BB folds

Preflop, I think is pretty standard minraise, 3bet (which happens often with this player), so for the size of the 3bet I call, knowing I will have position.

The Cbet on the flop is also standard from this player, he almost always does it, so I thought to call it with 2 overcards. Now, if I look at the pot odds vs. my outs, I think I should not have called and the chance that he has something better is quite big.
I also thought that if he checks the turn, I will be betting.

On the turn I got lucky, but also had the feeling there was not much value in betting anymore (if I would have missed I would have turned it into a bluff), so I waited until the river, which he almost always bets. Like this I think I could get more value, than playing a straight forward bet on the turn.

On the river he bets, as expected, and I think chances are low he has a J or 7. I also think he might call with a high card, with quite a lot of chips in the middle and a realistic chance that he thinks I might be rebluffing him.

Pre-flop and flop seem fine. Need to have some loose floats in there against the type of player you're describing, especially on this flop.

Bet turn for value and protection. You don't wanna let his stinky KJ get there. "if I would have missed I would have turned it into a bluff" - the fact you say this makes it more of a value bet - you don't wanna be only betting the turn as a bluff right?

Call river, I don't see any value in raising. He either has a jack or not. Even as button clicky as he is I don't think he will ever call your raise with ace high, this is basically never a bluff.

ninoverm said:

You don't wanna be only betting the turn as a bluff right?

Call river, I don't see any value in raising. He either has a jack or not. Even as button clicky as he is I don't think he will ever call your raise with ace high, this is basically never a bluff.

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Against most people I agree, but as he is always betting the river, in these cases, I thought I would gain more chips by letting him do the work on the river.
About the river you might be right. The other thing that played in this decision to bet is the size of the raise . I only raise 160 chips in a pot that is already 500, which could make him call easier. Also, if I would call, I don't have a big stack left. The blinds are still low, so I could still make something from that, but I thought the chance to get a call was higher, than the chance I could grind myself back up from a stack of 160 chips

Abramo Della Luce said:

Against most people I agree, but as he is always betting the river, in these cases, I thought I would gain more chips by letting him do the work on the river.
About the river you might be right. The other thing that played in this decision to bet is the size of the raise . I only raise 160 chips in a pot that is already 500, which could make him call easier. Also, if I would call, I don't have a big stack left. The blinds are still low, so I could still make something from that, but I thought the chance to get a call was higher, than the chance I could grind myself back up from a stack of 160 chips

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I guess the turn trapping play is highly exploitative and only possible against this type of player. Fine I guess.

The river part doesn't make sense though. Now of course you're laying him good odds, but you know that as well, and he knows that you know that. You're never doing this as a bluff, because the odds he's getting are so

About the last part: you're basically saying you rather have 0 chips than 160. What?

Nino is right, no point raising the river since he'll see your bet as strong. You'd probably have a better chance of getting called by Ax if you shoved, it would look weaker. So all you're doing is setting yourself up to get called by a Jx hand. And as for shoving, the potential value from Ax calls isn't worth risking getting beat by a Jx. Just call.

Gerb said:

You'd probably have a better chance of getting called by Ax if you shoved

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Mind you: 340 was all Hero had, it wasn't even double the bet. Agree on what you're saying though.

ninoverm said:

About the last part: you're basically saying you rather have 0 chips than 160. What?

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No, I just meant that I thought I would have more chance of him calling with worse after I go all in, than the chance that I would win the game by making a comeback from 160 chips.
I think an important aspect here is the fact that most players don't think a lot at these levels, and for the small amount they have to pay (compared to the pot), they will push the call-button a reasonable amount of the times.

Now, I understand and agree with you that a call would probably have been better on the river, just wanted to explain better what I was thinking.
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