$0.25 NLHE MTT: Pocket JJ how would you play this?

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Table '1589070065 6' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: sccptor (2901 in chips)
Seat 2: sprite206888 (1992 in chips)
Seat 3: Reimroc222 (3361 in chips)
Seat 4: Didier Ray (5882 in chips)
Seat 6: LWKY1 (1945 in chips)
Seat 7: JuniorV8 (2571 in chips)
Seat 8: erickkareka (2950 in chips)
Seat 9: JDAmotoX (6108 in chips)
sccptor: posts the ante 10
sprite206888: posts the ante 10
Reimroc222: posts the ante 10
Didier Ray: posts the ante 10
LWKY1: posts the ante 10
JuniorV8: posts the ante 10
erickkareka: posts the ante 10
JDAmotoX: posts the ante 10
sprite206888: posts small blind 50
Reimroc222: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JDAmotoX [Js Jh]
Didier Ray: calls 100
LWKY1: folds
JuniorV8: raises 200 to 300
erickkareka: folds
JDAmotoX: calls 300
sccptor: calls 300
sprite206888: folds
Reimroc222: folds
Didier Ray: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [3h 3d 9h]
Didier Ray: checks
JuniorV8: bets 500
JDAmotoX: calls 500
sccptor: folds
Didier Ray: folds
*** TURN *** [3h 3d 9h] [Td]
JuniorV8: bets 800
JDAmotoX: raises 4498 to 5298 and is all-in
JuniorV8: calls 961 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (3537) returned to JDAmotoX
*** RIVER *** [3h 3d 9h Td] [6d]

So with 4 people on the flop I decided I will call the bet. If I re-raise than there will be 2 more people behind me who could call. They ended up folding and its HU to the turn. He bets fairly smallish on the flop, I'm putting him on top pair or pocket pairs, although I would think he would bet a little more with pocket pairs. When the two people fold I was committed to shoving on him, with his fairly small bet again and with his stack at around $900 I shove for some fold equity and hopefully a worse hand, what do you think? His bets weren't so small that it looked like a strong hand and trying to look weak, his bet size looked like a decent TPTK or TPGK that he was protecting, or possibly pocket pairs.
 
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I'm 3betting pre here. It allows you to hopefully isolate the initial raiser and you can easily fold if he 4bets you.

Flop call is fine to keep worse hands in and almost nothing worse is calling a re-raise.

Turn is a tough decision, his bet sizing on the flop and turn screams strength and it does not help that he iso-raised preflop. I think we should just be folding here. He shows up with TT+ here the majority of the time and pretty much never bets the flop into 4 people with air and then continues on a blank turn.

Our hand is way underrepped, however the only think we beat here is an oddly played AT/air. I think he jams his bluffs on this turn rather than betting small, but who knows at this level.
 
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Please use hand convertor. Very difficult to read that spot. 3 bet preflop is good option in that situation
 
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I did not understand how it ended. But i think you must reraise on turn. And you must play check/fold on river after his call.
 
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not a horrible way to play the hand, but you open yourself up to too much preflop by letting 4 people go to the flop, I think a 3 bet w his low stack is in good measure here. It will either give you the pot there or give you some isolation. If you arent going to 3 bet preflop and just see a flop and be safe, then you HAVE to raise the flop to see where you are. If you have someone with lots of chips behind you and just call, then you are putting yourself at risk of being raised and not knowing if they came to the flop w any 3.. like Ac3c , you need to put more bets in so you can play the hand a little safer and more aggressive. Definitely, have to raise at some point. Not sure you won or played the hand good or bad, GL in the future.
 
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Without any stat,folding on the turn is probably ok.
 
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this move would try the 3bet , because the villain would pay me a lot of things , even though with a dominated hand , the flop think it would be better to reraise demonstrating value and extract information, then I would only call until the end of play
 
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I am with Trent on this one... 3 bet for value pre however looking at the stack sizes and the fact you should be 3 betting to probs 800 I would be happy enough to just get it in vs this iso raisers stack. The only worries for me is the BB with 3k chips if he decides to cold 4 then you only bet TT as i can see him calls AQ+AQs and shoving AK KK-AA and you suck against this range. Also the initial limper... if he now jams or 4 bets then you can be sure he limps QQ-AA to trap.
 
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it is quite possible that he has collected a set here. but how do you know it. maybe he had top pair with top kicker , and all . so you need to go all in.
 
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I agree that you should have re-raised preflop. JJ with four players is terrible.
 
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