$0.25 NLHE MTT: Donk bet the flop

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Hello guys, I was in the final table 4handed and got a 9Ts and decide to defend my BB with it.
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I would like to know if the donk bet was a good play, I really think someone had the Jack but happily i got the straight on the turn.
 
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What would You do if original raiser will raise your donkbet?
 
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check river... give them a chance to "steal" the pot
 
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actually I think you played very well up to the river, I think you could have gotten a little bit more out of them if your bet wasn't so large. otherwise I think your plays were good. They weren't raising, you had to feel good about that.
 
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actually I think you played very well up to the river, I think you could have gotten a little bit more out of them if your bet wasn't so large. otherwise I think your plays were good. They weren't raising, you had to feel good about that.

River shove is only for around 20% pot, players only have 4k and 5k behind.
 
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I personally don't like it, when I see these small donk leads I tend to raise them pretty wide as they are normally exactly this, a probing bet, which can't stand up to a raise.
Luckily you are against two players who just put half their stack in each and then folded on the river. I honestly think these two players played terribly considering their stack sizes.
 
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Check flop, this is a terrible hand to lead with especially if you're folding against a re-raise. If I had a leading range here it would consist of naked Tx, 98/J9/J8/T7. Rest of hand is fine.
 
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yeah thank you guys I believe the right play would be a check call. But I believe that the donk bet leads me to get more money on the pot because a check on the flop and bet on the river would be suspicious while me continuation bet on turn was just it.

I had a lot of outs 8+5 that would give me a three of a kind two pairs or straight.
what really made makes this donk beat was the original raiser who had open pre flop 3x. I thought " if I don't bet now he will put half the pot"
 
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fold. it was a blocking donk bet

why would you ever fold that flop? It's pretty much out of both other players range except for a pocket 10,jj or lower perhaps or otherwise both are likely to have ace high. pocket 10,9 are pretty unlikely as you block them. So perhaps KQs could be there as well.
you're flopping the the nuts and got around 36% considering the outs.

If the original raiser 3bets and you fold, for me it's not a good play. Statistically it should not be profitable as well I think

On the river I'd likely check cause there is no value in a bet if the other player feels they are beat
 
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why would you ever fold that flop?

well, let see what is the range of 3bet of those guys:

88, 99 (unlikely because I had one 9), , AJ,TJ,QJ, TT+,. QT is very unlikely but not impossible.

I am losing for all those hands, the first guy open 3x what can be a mounter hand.

So yes, I would fold a 3bet. the donk bet was like a " please slowplay your pocket Aces to me see if a got ahead of you"
 
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i really like the sizing until river, probably someone would have shoved if you checked it first. as for donkbet itself, i think it' ok and you can play like that balancing with check-call, it seems to me it mostly depends on who your opponents are.
 
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well, let see what is the range of 3bet of those guys:

88, 99 (unlikely because I had one 9), , AJ,TJ,QJ, TT+,. QT is very unlikely but not impossible.

I am losing for all those hands, the first guy open 3x what can be a mounter hand.

So yes, I would fold a 3bet. the donk bet was like a " please slowplay your pocket Aces to me see if a got ahead of you"

the hands that can beat you are very limited. Aces have a slim chance in that draw heavy board. Even if there's a 3 bet, you cover him pretty much and it'l always be a call for me. if he had a drawing hand he'd likely to call you & not raise cause you are voluntarily putting money into a pot.

If he had a set or top pair top kicker e'd raise you. or aces, kings or queens. otherwise it'll be a bluff raise

with that donk bet of yours, he has the chance to bluff raise you easily. I get the feeling that was not happening because it was a multiway pot.

you are pretty much behind because of that donk bet. not because of the flop. if you fold to a bluff raise that easily with a board heavily favoring you he'd steal more money from you in the future.
 
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