This is a discussion on $0.25 NLHE MTT: $0,25 NLHE MTT: $0,25 NLHE MTT: $0,25 NLHE MTT: within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Hand Analysis section; PokerStars - 100/200 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: 29.14 BB
UTG+1: 32.99 BB
Hero (MP): 32.27 BB
MP+1: 36.07 BB
I know this thread is old but I will take a crack at it. First, I think we should mention that I donít think your hand is an open here from UTG +2. It is too weak a hand that will get called and raised by bigger AXs leaving you in a tough spot (exactly like how this hand turned out). I think you should be folding this pre with your stack size and is a hand maybe, maybe you can open if you are a lot deeper.
On the flop I do not like the C bet or that sizing. I think this is a spot that is perfect to check back as the Q and J nail the range of the calling SB and you didnít hit anything. Bluffing here sometimes is more than okay but in this spot with the given flop I like a check behind here especially since we have a backdoor flush draw. If there was no club on the flop then betting is fine but even then I think I would still prefer a check behind. The sizing is way too big. No need to make it almost 2/3rds pot. If villain has nothing they will fold most likely and if they have any kind of pair they are calling. You get the same results betting 40-50% of pot here and it also will allow you to make future round bets smaller which we find out is a big deal in this hand.
On the turn as played betting is the correct option but again I think the sizing is too big. At this point yes we want value from our hand that could be best a lot of the time but if we are looking to get it all in by the river we donít need to be betting this large. We have a 26 BB effective stack (our stack) and a pot of 14BB. In this case you can easily again bet 40-50% of the pot and setup a river shove of roughly 75% pot if that is the route that you want to go. Betting smaller here also gives us options if we get jammed on like we did here. Now if we go through our evaluations on the situation and see we are bad we can more easily fold and not feel committed.
As far as calling the raise that villain makes in this hand it is a tough spot only because we made it a tough spot with the bet sizing. I personally think this is a fold just on hand ranges (not considering pot odds yet) because what hands is villain min raising the turn with? He is not doing this with a one pair Q or J hand. This is a two pair or better hand very often and am actually a little shocked he did this with only A10. A10 really has to be at the bottom of his raising range here. So if A10 is at the bottom we should not be calling. However, now I will consider pot odds and with the pot odds that we made by betting too large I think you have to call but I donít like it. Over half your stack is already in and we are beat a lot but are getting roughly 2:1 on this. Are we good 33% here? Doubt it but with half stack already in I am probably clicking the call button. This is why itís very important to get bet sizing correct as if we bet smaller here I would be saying fold this with ease and not lose any sleep at night over it.
June 19th, 2020, 8:04 AM
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You have built up this pot that you should not be in. It is very dangerous to enter the flop in this position. Our cards don't look as good as they seem. The villain with the best chances plays the check, and you continue to build up the pot for him. I understand that you were happy to get an ACE on the turn, so you were blinded. But after getting a re-raise, you must realize that you have lost this hand.
June 19th, 2020, 10:04 AM
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Hi, first a lucky river, I in this case would not have entered the hand with A4o I think it is the only difference, then as you played the hand taking into account the raise of the pre-flop that I would not have done everything was fine including the I called on the turn but I repeat maybe you should be more patient in that case and fold A4o in MP position
Once I hit the Ace on the turn, at that time it can be a good idea to play pot control. If villain has an Ace too, it's going to be bigger than yours. Rather than play for stacks, you have a really good bluff catcher.
June 26th, 2020, 3:07 PM
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SB player is smallball player or total noob. He should 3b this hand against you. That makes you canīt expected this hand.