$0.25 NLHE MTT: $0.25 NLHE MTT: Pocket 5 IP against aggressive

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poker stars, $0.23 Buy-in (25/50 blinds, 6 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details

Hero (MP2): 1,322 (26.4 bb)
MP3: 943 (18.9 bb)
CO: 2,801 (56 bb)
BTN: 5,669 (113.4 bb)
SB: 1,535 (30.7 bb)
BB: 4,086 (81.7 bb)
MP1: 1,833 (36.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5:heart: 5:club:
MP1 folds, Hero calls 50, 4 folds, BB checks

Flop: (167) K:diamond: K:heart: T:heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 57, BB raises to 114, Hero calls 57

Turn: (395) K:spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (395) A:heart: (2 players)
BB bets 400, Hero folds


Oponent play most hands on position and totally agressive on flop, saw him raise PF, 4bet all in OP on flop with top pair, and call all in with a flush draw on flop too.

Which were my options?
 
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Raise Pre-flop.

Don't make a habit of limping, its not a good strategy. The only position you should have a limp/call-limp/raise range is the SB.
 
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Raise Pre-flop.

Don't make a habit of limping, its not a good strategy. The only position you should have a limp/call-limp/raise range is the SB.
I disagree. With OP's stack size and hand specifically, open limping small PPs is fine here. We have a hand that we don't want to play a big pot with and a hand we want to go multiway with. Outside of small PPs we should not be open limping anything else other than maybe KK/AA. If we are <20bb I prefer folding.

Ideally for someone who does not know how to correctly apply/balance an opening limping range outside the SB, I'd agree with the latter part, but from my experience there are plenty of spots where limping can be advantageous outside the SB. I do agree that OP should not make open limping a habit in general, and default should always be to raise preflop.
 
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Raise Pre-flop.

Don't make a habit of limping, its not a good strategy. The only position you should have a limp/call-limp/raise range is the SB.

We have a hand that we don't want to play a big pot with and a hand we want to go multiway with.

I think hero has too many players acting after him to raise, and too few to call.

Raise: 55 is very difficult to play post-flop, unless hero flops a set or better, which only happens about 9% of the time. (Avi, I am sure you know this, I'm giving the odds for other readers).
The other 91% of the time, there will usually be overcards on the flop, and that will make it difficult to say whether hero is ahead or behind.
So hero prefers the other players to fold pre-flop. He's basically stealing. But there are five players acting after him, which is a lot of potential callers.

Call: Pot has to be multi-way to be profitable. We'd like as many callers as possible, but Hero has only 5 players left to act after him, and the player in front of him folded. The table being short-handed reduces the chances that we'll get the multi-way pot we need to be profitable.

Folding is free, and that's what I'd do here.

As played:
C-betting is fine, but the c-bet is undersized. If you want the villain to fold, you'll have to make it more difficult for him to call.
Hero says he's seen the villain put a lot of chips in the pot with top pair or draws. And villain is giving hero a good price to call.
But I'd still fold to the 3-bet.
The problem isn't really this 3-bet, it's the future, larger bets that villain may make on other streets. Hero's hand isn't likely to improve, and he will have to make difficult decisions.
 
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on the river you just beat the bluffs, but he was already betting on the value...
for the rest the guys above said...
 
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