$0.10 NLHE MTT Turbo: $0,10 NLHE MTT Turbo: $ : $ : So, I need help wether to push or not push here.

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$0.10 NLHE MTT Turbo: $0,10 NLHE MTT Turbo: $ : $ : So, I need help wether to push or not push here.

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.1 Tournament, 500/1,000 Blinds 100 Ante (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

MP1 (t18,004)
MP2 (t7,513)
CO (t3,378)
Button (t19,712)
Hero (SB) (t14,112)
BB (t13,833)
UTG (t17,500)
UTG+1 (t18,420)

Hero's M: 6.14

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
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, Q
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6 folds, Hero raises to t14,012 (All-In), BB calls t12,733 (All-In)

Flop: (t28,266) 3
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, 6
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, 10
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t28,266) 3
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t28,266) 7
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t28,266

Results below:
Hero had A
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, Q
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(one pair, threes).
BB had 5
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, 5
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(two pair, fives and threes).
Outcome: BB won t28,266


So this is it. Was it a huge mistake playing like this? I mean, when I read it I could probably reduce the bet size, but maybe he would shove anyway since our M's where rather low...
I don't think I'd fold to that either considering how close to the bubble we where.
So any opinions?
 
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The shove is correct here,you have 14bb`s this is the right move
 
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yes it's fine, however there are a few other moves which might be slightly more profitable (debateable) depending on the player.

Jam is 100% fine and the easiest play you can do without making mistakes.

you could also

Bet 5k and jam any flop.
This play is good vs very bad players, fish who don't know it's really bad to call such a big chunk of their stack and fold postflop, however it's really not suited to our hand type AQ which is a premium, i'd make this move with hands we don't want calls with. So stuff at the bottom of our shoving range, like 76s or something like that. This play is designed to get folding equity postflop or preflop and takes advantage of the fact that fish make really bad moves often. Like lets say we make this move here, if he calls with his 55, and sees a flop with overcards he may just fold giving us a huge pot without showdown, you'd be suprised how often it works ;). As mentioned though, with our hand type i would just shove this in as i want him to call and i don't want to do any other funky move like min-raise as fish will likely call and put us in really weird situations postflop.
Min-raise to induce
Good, vs aggro types and ego types who will just see you min raising as weakness and think you will fold often. Cons are you are going to showdown more often, which means you will lose more often but also give yourself that chance at winning a big pot more often, which is handy considering we're short and it's an MTT with a likely big field. THe other con is that he might flat call, putting us in a weird situation. So it's best to use this play only vs aggressive regulars
Limp to induce
Same as the min raise, but here this player likely attacks limps vert wide, so we limp, he raises and we jsut jam over, or we limp he shoves and we call. Again, much more risk involved here and likely go to showdown more often, however that also gives us a better chance when we do hold.

All these plays can be great vs players who we know fall into that traits, if you don't know this, best to just shove it in and take the blinds, they will still call with worse and it's an easy way to play it. But If you know some weaknesses in a players game, hopefully the above helps you and gives you a few more options when facing BVB situations with short stacks.
 
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SbvsBB shove any pair or Ax and when stack less 20bb will be fine shove...
 
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Shoving is fine here.

Its just unlucky villain has a pair and thinks its a strong hand and called.
 
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Thank you really much for the feedback guys. Appreciate it!
WiZZiM your tips are something I will take in consideration! If I get across the guy again I can cathegorize him more easily. I just had 3 hands with him and they really didn't tell me much except that he wont fold a bottom pair on bb vs an all in from sb from a 15/5/45 player. But then again he's probably not played more then 3 hands with me either so I guess he didn't really cared.
 
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Shove is correct. You can shove wider here to be profitable.
ICMizer says 66+ A9o+ A7s+ KJ KQ KTs. Personaly i think it depends on who is the player in the big and in most cases i will even shove wider there with ICM in play. If the player is a good player i would just go with the ICMizer shove/fold range.
 
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Probability that opp has much stronger hand (such as AA, KK, QQ, AK) is tiny. Against middle and small pair you have 45%. Small pair and AK reasonable player might fold. Bank isn't empty. Your acting is positive at a distance.
 
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