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I personally noticed I either give away to much info (which leads to no stacking or to little info, which leads to bad beats:confused: ). Now i've been taking everthing that people say works for them and trying to do the exact thing as them but for some reason my oppents never seem to bite.

pokerstars Game #22980329141: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/12/16 17:27:50 ET
Table 'T #253495747' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Minigun134 ($27.70 in chips)
Seat 2: What_A_Chump ($15.65 in chips)
Seat 3: TbirdSquared ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 4: cyganik ($6.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Alltim Lala ($23.80 in chips)
Seat 7: BEEF3000 ($14.40 in chips)
Seat 8: Polivanov ($4.30 in chips)
Seat 9: abdi122 ($46.45 in chips)
What_A_Chump: posts small blind $0.10
TbirdSquared: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [Jd Qd]
cyganik: folds
cyganik leaves the table
Alltim Lala: folds
BEEF3000: folds
Polivanov: folds
abdi122: raises $0.75 to $1
Minigun134: folds
What_A_Chump: calls $0.90
TbirdSquared: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s Tc 8c]
What_A_Chump: checks
abdi122: checks
*** TURN *** [4s Tc 8c] [9c]
What_A_Chump: bets $0.75
abdi122: raises $1.50 to $2.25
What_A_Chump: calls $1.50
*** RIVER *** [4s Tc 8c 9c] [Ad]
What_A_Chump: checks
abdi122: bets $4
What_A_Chump: folds
Uncalled bet ($4) returned to abdi122
abdi122 collected $6.45 from pot
abdi122: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.75 | Rake $0.30
Board [4s Tc 8c 9c Ad]
Seat 1: Minigun134 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: What_A_Chump (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: TbirdSquared (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: cyganik folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Alltim Lala folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: BEEF3000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Polivanov folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: abdi122 collected ($6.45)


3 things I would like to know

A) Was I know I raised preflop and should've continued it on the flop, but on this type of board I just seem to be somewhat hesitant not to mention the person i'm up against is a total caller, so I figured if I bet he just flats it, and then i'm really at a loss:eek: . Turn card is a nice card for me, yet for some reason I come out after he bets into me, and pop him up. This is where I have the hardest of times, I either raise way to much, or to little, and if I raise to little then they just call, and depending on what the river is, they try to either make me lay down the best hand, or B) They suckout on me, which then makes me on tilt, feeling like an idiot. So more or less bet sizing, and also, what is the right move here on the turn, poping him/her, or flatting him/her, plz tell me your answer as I truelly am at a loss, for the fact that he/she, did'nt commit the rest of the stack let along call my value bet on the river.

B) Was my value bet on the river to much, and if so what's more likely to get paid of here

C) Did I play the hand right

Ty all
 
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I like a cbet on the flop most of the time here. You have a well-disguised nut-hand if you hit and taking it down on the flop with queen-high isn't bad.

His weak turn bet is ridiculous and I repop him with a wide range of hands (well maybe not too wide, considering he's a station). If you raise to $3 here he's more likely to call $4 on the river. The river is probably a scare card for him but plenty of other times he'll have AT or A9 and pay you off. Don't worry about milking your monsters for all it's worth, sometimes they just don't have enough to call.

Sometimes he'll have like KJ and is just bluffing so can't call anything and other times he'll have a slowplayed set of 8s and you can stack him. Keep your play consistently correct though and you'll come out ahead over the long haul.
 
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another prime example of my play which i'm having a hard time with is this hand. Now if this were your hand, would you play it like I did? What would you change in this hand, sry for the multiple posts on here.

PokerStars Game #22979902056: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/12/16 17:14:11 ET
Table 'T #253495747' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Minigun134 ($28.70 in chips)
Seat 2: What_A_Chump ($15.20 in chips)
Seat 3: TbirdSquared ($23.15 in chips)
Seat 4: auct0ritas ($25.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Alltim Lala ($24.25 in chips)
Seat 6: lmdleon ($5 in chips)
Seat 7: lukende ($5 in chips)
Seat 9: abdi122 ($42.60 in chips)
What_A_Chump: posts small blind $0.10
TbirdSquared: posts big blind $0.25
Polivanov: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [Jc Kc]
auct0ritas: calls $0.25
Alltim Lala: folds
lmdleon: folds
lukende: calls $0.25
abdi122: raises $1.25 to $1.50
Minigun134: folds
What_A_Chump: folds
TbirdSquared: folds
auct0ritas: calls $1.25
lukende: calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [4d Kh 3c]
auct0ritas: checks
lukende: checks
abdi122: bets $2.80
auct0ritas: folds
lukende: folds
Uncalled bet ($2.80) returned to abdi122
abdi122 collected $4.65 from pot
abdi122: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.85 | Rake $0.20
Board [4d Kh 3c]
Seat 1: Minigun134 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: What_A_Chump (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: TbirdSquared (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: auct0ritas folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Alltim Lala folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: lmdleon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: lukende folded on the Flop
Seat 9: abdi122 collected ($4.65)

I really felt I could've gotten more from them this hand, but was anxious to start building the pot, not to mention everytime i've slow played, WVHBILLY, has always told me not to slow play, and Zacky also says the same thing, but when I bet out, they don't have much and are always seeminly folding either there less hands, or there TPSk, so what should I be trying to change here?
 
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Based on what you've posted in this thread I think you should clearly fold QJ and KJ preflop.

Be happy to get what you did with these hands. Because oftentimes, if you get into very big pots with QJ/KJ, especially in the second where all you have is TPGK, you won't be happy with the results.
 
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First of all, please

1) title your threads in a meaningful way. see https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/thread-titles-130776/

2) don't post results. see https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/stop-posting-results-op-analysis-threads-136698/

3) post one hand per thread.

4) use a converter.

That being said, on the first hand, you have to cbet this flop. it's immediately profitable when villain folds and you have good equity against villain's calling and CR range, so you don't mind building the pot.

Second hand is a great result. Villains who limp/call, then fold on flop unimproved are a huge profit source. Don't be greedier. And when you do get action from this kind of hand, it's often going to be a set. That being said, there's nothing too wrong about checking behind instead of cbetting here. If you play for stacks here you will mostly be behind, so you don't need to build the pot just yet.
 
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naruto_miu pls stop posting the results.
 
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First of all, please

1) title your threads in a meaningful way. see https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/thread-titles-130776/

2) don't post results. see https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cas...p-posting-results-op-analysis-threads-136698/

3) post one hand per thread.

4) use a converter.

That being said, on the first hand, you have to cbet this flop. it's immediately profitable when villain folds and you have good equity against villain's calling and CR range, so you don't mind building the pot.

Second hand is a great result. Villains who limp/call, then fold on flop unimproved are a huge profit source. Don't be greedier. And when you do get action from this kind of hand, it's often going to be a set. That being said, there's nothing too wrong about checking behind instead of cbetting here. If you play for stacks here you will mostly be behind, so you don't need to build the pot just yet.

Sry B, I just actually wanted input as to how I played the hand.
I will from now on use proper tilte threads, and last but not least I don't know how to use the converter, sry
 
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Sry B, I just actually wanted input as to how I played the hand.

That's actually the point. You will get better input when you hide the results. When we can see them, it skews our ability to analyse.
 
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