When overbetting with the [near]nuts is the right move:

joosebuck

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Why did this work?

Well, for starters, I knew he was very aggressive, and tended to make good bets and calls. He saw the all-in as weakness, and probably put me on an underpair.

Secondly, he had a huge stack, and I had noted that he made a habit of calling stacks shorter than his on their all-in's when he had only marginal hands, so it occurred to me that slow playing (with a board that I was pretty sure missed him as far as a straight is concerned, I had him on AQ or KQ) wouldn't extract as many chips as the 'desparation' move would.

Please feel free to expand on it..
 

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jasondavies

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he made IMO a ridiculous call, he has top pair with mid kick, flush draw on board, $2.75 pot with a bet of $5.20 into it, IMO he is mad, i dont actually know how to calculate pot odds properly, but surely they dont make it worth a call here, anyway, glad to be wrong, good point made joosebuck
 
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The only reason I see him calling is that fact he had top pair. It's not a smart call. He had a medium kicker and there were three spades on the flop! Good move going all in on the flop, Don't make a player chase the flush cheap!
 
gord962

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wow - horrible call!!! Good read joosebuck!! The only way I would call after the flop is if I'm sitting with 2 spades and 1 was the K. If I didn't have the K, I would assume you had it with this all-in and I would have folded.
 
starfall

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Yeah, good read. I'm not sure it was over-bet, really - because much less than that and it would have made calling with a good flush draw relatively attractive. His call was poor, but rather than putting you on an underpair, I'm guessing with that flop he'd have probably been more likely to put you on a flush draw, which would have been a decent hand for a semi-bluff, at which point he would have been something of a favourite, and therefore able to call any sized bet.
 
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yup thats the kind of play you get at .05/.10
talk about a value bet! lol
vnh joose and well done - sometimes overbetting does the opposite of what you think it does and actually reels them in, them seeing it as weakness
anyways good job
 
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