What would u do?

Personally I'm not as good as 3 quarters of you fine ppl on here, and I do make alot of dumb calls, and plays, some work , and others fail horribly , but this is why I try to make such dumb calls, with an intention to bluff on other streets

pokerstars Game #17870532722: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/06/02 - 16:53:33 (ET)
Table 'Klytia IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: abdi122 ($14.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Tibike79 ($19.75 in chips)
Seat 3: angry hobo ($59.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Danny830x ($15 in chips)
Seat 5: RHFiend ($31.05 in chips)
Seat 6: kplaxmaster ($25.70 in chips)
RHFiend: posts small blind $0.10
kplaxmaster: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [8c 9c]
abdi122: raises $0.50 to $0.75
Tibike79: folds
angry hobo: folds
Danny830x: folds
RHFiend: folds
kplaxmaster: raises $2 to $2.75


I'll post the rest when acouple of ppl had a look at it

He re-raised your 3 BB bet to 11 BB's.

Any stats on the aggressor in the BB?

If he respects your play at all, and he has some understanding of the game, he'd going to give your UTG raise some respect.

I'd say he has a pocket pair like J/J or T/T. Against a hand like that you're going to win 1/5 of the time. Of course if you don't an open-ended straight draw, or a flush draw, or an 8 & 9 on the flop, you're done with the hand.

So basically you're playing to break him.

Really, it comes down to reads. If you're sure you stack him if he has an overpair to the board (or maybe TPTK) then it's a pot worth playing for the flush or straight.

Has be been making continuation bets? If he's weak post-flop, then I'd definitely play the hand and bet the flop if he checks it. If there's a face card on the board (no Ace) then a continuation bet will scare a weak player into folding more often than not.

If he's smart and tight, well, then I fold. Because you're not getting enough potential winnings to justify the call.

I think you should fold to the reraise here for a few reasons. First of all your going to be out of position, suited connectors prefer to have position so you can maximize your wins and minimize your losses. The 2nd and most important reason I think you should fold is your stack size. Your only getting around 5 to 1 implied odds, your not gonna be able to win enough in this spot to compensate for your losses in the long run. I think if you were to raise suited connectors in ep you would be much better off with a deeper stack,

I didn't even look at his stack size. I assumed he had the full $25.

It's a definately fold if you can only squeeze another $13.95 out of the pot if you hit.

Your UTG raise is all right, but it's an easy fold to the re-raise.

And Richyl2008 gets my endorsement, your stack is simply not deep enough to make this play profitable over the long run. A call puts $5.60 in the pot with your remaining stack being $11.95. Villain has represented real strength by reraising to 11xBB.

You stated you will make this play with the intent of bluffing on later streets, but if any more money goes in the pot you will basically be committed to the pot, as will your opponent. Any decent bet will make the pot bigger than your remaining stack.

... easy lay down, personally i only play those hands in later position. But you could make the play to steal the blinds and fold to any re-raise.
But my geusse is you called and you went all in on a 9

Everyone here is the flop

*** FLOP *** [7c Qc 5s]
kplaxmaster: bets $3.50
abdi122: calls $3.50


now as for ur questions the dude has been nothing but pushy constantly picking on my Blinds, he raises, and just raises on the flop no matter what, um the reason I called was simple there is no way this guy could have so much monster hands constantly, but then again who knows?

now what would u do? would u call, would u raise/push or just fold?

Yea you shouldn't really even be playing suited connectors if you aren't at 100bbs and you certainly shouldn't be call a 3 bet on the flop with them.

Often there is absolutely nothing wrong with playing suited connectors/small pps even if you know you are vs a huge overpair, because the odds are if you hit the flop you are going to stack your opponent. So your pot odds are bad, but your implied odds are godly. If you aren't deepstacked, however, your pot odds still suck and your implied odds aren't good either.

As for the hand, that is certainly a good flop for you with flush draw + gutshot. Raising the flop is certainly an option, but if this guy is a maniac as you seem to think then check calling and seeing if you hit your hand would normally be your best bet because you don't want to see him shove overtop of your reraise. However, since you are so short stacked you might as well just shove the flop.

Just don't buy in for 1/2 max or lose money and not top up. Personally, i think one should either buy in for the very min and play short stacked strats (ie. basically trying to get all in preflop or on the flop with pps/big aces) or buy in for the max. If you have 15$ in NL25 you are in no man's land. You can't play short stacked strats properly, and you can't play deepstacked strats either.

Push or fold...

lets say he has a monster like KK or something like that... maybe it whas a donk and had QK,, who knows. But you cant call 3,50 with only 11,95 left.

because this is the problem with it;
you called yourre stack is now 8,45 and you missed the turn. yourre screwed, because the pot is now 12,60 and if he had any of those hands i just said it going in any way and becausse he is first to act he can now push with 1010 JJ if he thinks yourre weak.

so the problem is you can only hit a 6 or a C that leaves 13 outs left. so out of the head somewhere around 27 %

So a i would fold before the flop duuh... but if yourre still in the hand :angel: i would push,for the simple reason you still got a lot of outs so let him make a decision.

The way you describe, he could be doing this with A/x.
If your sure he has nothing re-raise the flop and see if he folds.

Calling was bad, because your cards are likely to the the worst and you're letting him see the river for free. If you're going to bluff, bluff after the flop so he doesn't get that last card. You have no idea if he'll even let you bluff the river.

If he bets the river you're screwed unless you hit your gutshot. But if you re-raise the flop you might chase him off now.

Right now you're getting your money in with the worst of it against a guy, who bluffing or not, probably has you beat. It's a bad situation.

As played I'd definately shove all in on the flop. It gives you 2 ways to win by either him folding or by you hitting your draw. (I was mistaken before when I posted that you were out of position, but it's still a fold preflop. ) Calling the flop is bad because if he bets the turn, which he probably will, it gives you little to no fold equity, unless he is on a complete bluff, and even then he may feel committed enough to the point where he calls you with AK or something.

This is how the hand played out
*** TURN *** [7c Qc 5s] [3h]
kplaxmaster: checks
abdi122: bets $8.45 and is all-in
kplaxmaster: folds
Uncalled bet ($8.45) returned to abdi122
abdi122 collected $12 from pot
abdi122: doesn't show hand

Yes, you won the hand, but I still think it was wrong to call that initial raise. Without the proper stack to be rewarded you for your call. Your stack being so small it's easier for a player to make the call since they will be caped on thier losses and even with a double up most of the players at the table could bust you on your next hand.

I understand in the original post you are saying make the call to make a bluff on later streets. And on this particular hand you actually flop something you can bluff with, but when you couple your thin stack with playing a delayed bluff, I think this becomes an overall bad play.

After the flop you have much higher equity than after the turn. In fact, if villain is not holding an overpair TT or higher you are actually ahead in the hand (estimated). If they are holding a Q or overpair, AA-TT then you are a 55/45 dog. So postflop your looking pretty good.

But you delay your bluff, the pot grows and you a 3h hits. Now you are a 75/25 dog roughly and this is when you decide to push all your money in. Not only are you most likely a dog if villain has anything, but your not able to push even the size of the pot.

The main problem is preflop. Don't play suited connectors when you are only 60 big blinds deep.

Actually the main problem is pre-preflop. Don't play 60 big blinds deep. Rebuy to the max.

You got lucky here, but you will bleed money in the long run by plying this strategy.