What did I do wrong in this hand?

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I am BB hre with KQs

Stacks:
* UTG with $0.99
* UTG+1 with $3.49
* MP1 with $1.87
* MP2 with $1.51
* MP3 with $5.75
* CO with $3.00
* BTN with $2.16
* SB with $1.90
* BB with $3.04

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Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
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* * Dealt to BB:Q♠ K♠
* * Sklansky group 2
Preflop:
* * 1 players fold.
* * UTG+1 calls [$0.02]
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP2 calls [$0.02]
* * CO: checks
* * 1 players fold.
* * BTN calls [$0.02]
* * SB calls [$0.01]
* * Hero: checks
* * Total folds this street: 3
* * Potsize: $0.12
Flop:
* * K♥ 2♣ 2♥
* * SB: checks
* * Hero bets [$0.04]
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP2 calls [$0.04]
* * 3 players folded.
* * Total folds this street: 4
* * Potsize: $0.2
Turn:
* * 6♣
* * Hero bets [$0.02]
* * 3 players fold.
* * MP2 raises $0.08 to $0.10
* * Hero calls [$0.08]
* * Potsize: $0.4
River:
* * 2♠
* * Hero bets [$0.40]
* * MP2 raises $0.95 to $1.35 [ all-in ]
* * Hero calls [$0.95]
Results:
* * MP2 shows four of a kind, Deuces:
* * 3♦ 2♦ Hero doesn't show.
* * MP2 collected $2.95 from pot

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You didn't raise preflop. You have to raise this hand. End of story.

If a 2 didn't roll off on the river, I would *hate* betting this river. Your opponent is representing 66 or 2x on the turn. That's a pretty narrow range. So you're either drawing near dead, or have him drawing near dead. So on the river, I'd like a check/call to get more value out of the times he's bluffing you, or doing this with something retarded like just a 6.

Since the 2 fell, its pretty hard to put your opponent on quads, and I don't mind stacking off here at these limits.
 
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What kind of raise would you have put in this position? Wouldnt raising here cost me more post flop since he still hit his set on the flop? Was I really going to be able to push him off that?
 
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A raise of 3-4 times the big blind may get him to fold. Again he is just trying to get into this flop cheaply and hopes to hit a set. 22 is a very weak starting hand so I wouldn't expect many people to go in with it following a raise.
This is micro limits though and I know from my experience most people probably keep this going into the flop.
 
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You would probably have to raise to 5bb to get any of the limpers to fold. The idea is 23s is less likely to see the flop, 6 hands to the flop there is no way I get it allin here. Villain can't call your river bet with a worse hand than you and then you're just calling hoping for a chop, check/call river.
 
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4xBB for the limpers + 4xBB = $.16 for the preflop raise
 
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I am going to keep all of that in mind for next time i am in the BB with KQs. Would other hands like AJs A10s, and AQs apply for that type of raise from the BB as well with only limpers in the pot. What about if there was a raise from someone in late position with these same hands KQs included?
 
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4xBB for the limpers + 4xBB = $.16 for the preflop raise
Bingo.


Would other hands like AJs A10s, and AQs apply for that type of raise from the BB as well with only limpers in the pot.
Yes. If you want to play top pair top kicker confidently, you must raise this preflop.

Here's the big picture. Most of the time, when we have a hand like AJ, we will make top pair with a good kicker or our opponents will have nothing, and we'll win the pot. However, the player playing 32 realizes he needs to catch a hand better than just 1 pair to have a shot at winning. So he's not going to pay you when you hit your ace.

Therefore, to counteract these implied odds, you raise preflop. That way, you can win a bigger pot most of the time, that will counter act those times when he catches trip 3's and takes a bunch of money away from you.

Raising will also help thin the field, give you a better idea of what kind of hands you're up against, ect.
 
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What about if there was a raise from someone in late position with these same hands KQs included?

Generally you fold those hands, Gap Concept. Now if you have a read that the raiser will raise light then a 3-bet may be in order, there is a thread on the light 3-bet in the forum. In the BB you will only flat call a raise with a few select starting hands, small pocket pairs, middle suited connectors or suited one gappers but only if there are or will be 3+ callers also.
 
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