what do you make of this? minimum hand to call?

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Hes only been at the table about an orbit so no real reads.

What do you make of this? What do you think he has? Do you call with KJh? Ax? KK?

pokerstars Game #9071994906: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/03/24 - 20:52:51 (ET)
Table 'Aethusa II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: emma335 ($8.60 in chips)
Seat 2: toscasita ($12.50 in chips)
Seat 3: 26maggie ($4.25 in chips)
Seat 4: FatBuu ($12.10 in chips)
Seat 5: yolove7 ($63 in chips)
Seat 6: mischman ($31.90 in chips)
26maggie: posts small blind $0.10
FatBuu: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mischman [Kd 6d]
yolove7: calls $0.25
mischman: folds
emma335: folds
toscasita: calls $0.25
26maggie: calls $0.15
FatBuu: checks
*** FLOP *** [As 3h Qh]
26maggie: checks
FatBuu: checks
yolove7: checks
toscasita: checks
*** TURN *** [As 3h Qh] [Ad]
26maggie: checks
FatBuu: checks
yolove7: checks
mischman: checks
toscasita: bets $12.25 and is all-in
 
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I'd say he's going for the steal.
 
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there is nothing in the pot so i fold almost every hand. Ive only seen plays like this with huge hands so im only calling with AQ or A3. the only hand that makes sense to me is 33 or A3 hoping someone else has an A. at these limits you see alot of plays that dont make sense though who knows he could have AA. or he could be thinking nobody else has an A since everyone checked around and they cant call this bet unless they do but that would just be retarded. Maybe hes moving in like this cause hes pretty sure nobody can call and then he will show his bluff to get calls for when he does move in with the monster hands. but i still dont call with anything less than AQ or A3 maybe QQ
 
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If he was holding the third ace, he would have made a small bet to represent the queen and induce a call from another queen. So, based on the gross overbet, there is no way that he is holding the third ace.
If I had to put him on a hand, I would put him on Queen/Rag. His strong bet smells like a weak queen trying to represent the third ace so that he can drive out a third queen with a higher kicker.
 
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He really needs that dollar

(I agree with Flushy)
 
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Wait for a better spot without at least AK (though with AK, it should have been played differently, so that really doesn't apply).

With no reads, we can't know if he does this with a weak hand or with a made hand. Some people pull weird pushes like this with the nuts to try and convince you they're stealing, others are actually stealing.
 
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AQ is the only way I am calling here. risk almost $12 to win 75 cents. Not worth it unless I have the nuts.

I call this raise the hail mary. It only works 1 in 20 tries but damn is it exciting when it happens. I see it mostly when people have it and want to look like a steal.
 
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PokerStars Game #9071994906: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/03/24 - 20:52:51 (ET)
Table 'Aethusa II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: emma335 ($8.60 in chips)
Seat 2: toscasita ($12.50 in chips)
Seat 3: 26maggie ($4.25 in chips)
Seat 4: FatBuu ($12.10 in chips)
Seat 5: yolove7 ($63 in chips)
Seat 6: mischman ($31.90 in chips)
26maggie: posts small blind $0.10
FatBuu: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mischman [Kd 6d]
yolove7: calls $0.25
mischman: folds
emma335: folds
toscasita: calls $0.25
26maggie: calls $0.15
FatBuu: checks
*** FLOP *** [As 3h Qh]
26maggie: checks
FatBuu: checks
yolove7: checks
toscasita: checks
Wheres Mischman?
*** TURN *** [As 3h Qh] A♦
26maggie: checks
FatBuu: checks
yolove7: checks
mischman: checks :eek:
toscasita: bets $12.25 and is all-in
 
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I was wondering the same. I thought he folded. How did he get back in?
 
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I think he edited the hand to make it look like he didn't limp with k6 but we see right through it misch ;)
 
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There is no money in the pot - if the guy is a maniac nutter and bets to steal let him have it and hope for a setup hand -_ unless of course you have the nuts. Why risk your stack when you have no read on the other player. If it is a steal he will continue to play like a donk and you can take his chips.
 
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12.25 for a pot of a dollar? What kinda odds are those?

Seriously, if he had a great hand, wouldn't he bet a wee bit smaller. Unless hes a real savvy player with the nuts and hoping the all in looks like a blatant steal and someone looks him up...

I wouldn't call with out at least A3, probably AQ... just not worth it. He can have the dollar if its a steal.

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