Villain Takes Strange line against our underpair [200nl FR]

CO: $66.05
BTN: $42
SB: $303.15
BB: $232.50
UTG: $31.20
UTG+1: $197
UTG+2: $59.55
MP1: $47
Hero (MP2): $301.90

Pre-Flop: 9 9 dealt to Hero (MP2)
4 folds, Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($13) A 2 T (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($13) 6 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB raises to $16

what the hell do we put villain on here? Do we just fold here because we have no clue whatsoever where we are?

Reads on villain? Betting turn for protection/draws will call?

You should have bet the flop to see where you were in the hand/narrow his hand range/cbet in positon (perhaps you could have taken the pot down on the flop). He could have a big variety here.

c9h13no3 said:

Reads on villain? Betting turn for protection/draws will call?

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Unknown, 8 hands on him at the time.

As played, fold turn. At 25$ NL, I'm checking this down for showdown value. Decent flop to c-bet as well. But your check flop, bet turn line is so obviously weak. And there's not much you can do about him check/raising you either.

I either like c-betting the flop, or just checking it down to the river.

Your a better player than me zach and if you have zero read on him..then folding or calling seem a viable option. It is only $8 to go and you have position on him. So what is the pot $37 and u have just under 5-1 on the call. Those r some tasty odds. you only have to be good 1 in 5 to jusify the call? ahah throw in 5% outs for a set aswell.

I might call and fold to a river bet - also he's called from the BB and is probably on a wide range. Your probably beat..but i'd want to see his action on the river. So i might call..but folding is fine aswell.

I mean 5-1 doesn't that mean ur 99 has to be good 16% of the time, take into account that it might be a bluff. You have 5% of outs to a set.. pretty hard not to call - a player would only have to bluff a small percentage of the time to make the call correct. But you don't know if he'll fire again lol.

Sorry that is a bit convoluted^^ just throwing out some ideas.

It reeks of strength. And part of the problem is that even if he's doing this with clubs or some other weird semibluff, your equity is still poor given the number of outs he could have. At worst, you're drawing dead, most of the rest of the time you're drawing to two outs, and the rest of the rest of the time, he has a 30%+ equity draw.

You could call here and fold to a river bet, but I just don't see many hands in his range that he'll check the river with that you beat. Probably none, unless he has AK and is confused about life.

Calling this with the plan to fold to a river bet is total spew.

Well, calling at all is pretty much total spew. It's a clear fold situation. You have no idea WHATSOEVER on what he's holding and there are a lot of possibilities that have you beat. Wait for better times to capitalize.

c9h13no3 said:

Calling this with the plan to fold to a river bet is total spew.

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Under the condition that he'd make a weird checkraise bluff and give up on the river, it could be worth it (since we're getting such attractive pot odds) but these players are few and far between. He'd have to have specifically a draw, miss, and then not bet the river very often. The parlay between these things makes for a very rare player. I don't usually call that "spewing" (since I reserve that word for putting in large amounts of money with hopeless hands) but it would definitely qualify as a leak.

I just think he's betting the river with like 95% of his range. And some of that 5% has us beat.

fold. You can't call another river bet readless unless you spike a 9.

And I'd imagine he's going to be making that river bet whether he has it or not.

ok well basically I folded here, and I'm pretty sure that's a good play, but I just didn't know if anyone else had any idea what kind of hand would take this line. Would a set check 2 streets and min-raise when we bet turn? It's not a big enough pot and we don't have enough information to make raising to steal worthwhile, but the main reason I posted this was I just thought "wtf?" when he did that and didn't know if anyone else could put some sort of sense into this on what kind of range villain could be on to make that play. If we have a weak top pair what would we do here?

zachvac said:

ok well basically I folded here, and I'm pretty sure that's a good play, but I just didn't know if anyone else had any idea what kind of hand would take this line. Would a set check 2 streets and min-raise when we bet turn? It's not a big enough pot and we don't have enough information to make raising to steal worthwhile, but the main reason I posted this was I just thought "wtf?" when he did that and didn't know if anyone else could put some sort of sense into this on what kind of range villain could be on to make that play. If we have a weak top pair what would we do here?

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the only hand that makes a lot of sense would be 66... or maybe A6

or maybe he just sees us for what we are (weak) and thinks he can take it.

those would be my guesses...

I don't think draws do this.

Tygran said:

the only hand that makes a lot of sense would be 66... or maybe A6

or maybe he just sees us for what we are (weak) and thinks he can take it.

those would be my guesses...

I don't think draws do this.

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This or Ax of hearts. I don't see this as him reading us as weak, as the minraise doesnt make much sense if he's bluffing.

To the hand, like C9 said, I see this as either C-bet flop, or keep checking.