Useless Poll #3

Our move...

  • bet .50

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • bet .75

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • bet $1.25

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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mischman

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pokerstars Game #10314953884: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/06/07 - 10:29:57 (ET)
Table 'Laura II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: pelikan ($11.70 in chips)
Seat 2: wchob ($23.95 in chips)
Seat 3: mischman ($23.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Die Bibi ($5.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Hitdark ($27.30 in chips)
Seat 6: clownstep ($10 in chips)
Seat 7: passtscho ($12.45 in chips)
Seat 8: gregorio77 ($25.90 in chips)
wchob: posts small blind $0.10
mischman: posts big blind $0.25
clownstep: posts big blind $0.25
MiWe007: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mischman [Jd Ad]
Die Bibi: calls $0.25
Hitdark: calls $0.25
clownstep: checks
passtscho: folds
gregorio77: folds
pelikan: raises $0.75 to $1
wchob: folds
mischman: calls $0.75
Die Bibi: calls $0.75
Hitdark: calls $0.75
clownstep: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc Tc Kc]
mischman:
 
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This is a tough one, even more so being OOP. I know you're going to disagree with this but I fold this PF most times, although I don't argue the call being that your hand is soooooted.

As played I would lead out for ~$3, and take it from there based on reads. There is no way you check this with a made hand and 3 clubs on the board, unless you're planning a check/raise but I'm not sure I like that.

Where is the poll?
 
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I would check, and call any bets less than $2, but would certainly be ready to fold this to a couple of the players getting involved, there is just to much chance that someone will have a better hand by the river, and i cant see the Ac or Jc, folding to any bets given most of there stack sizes.
 
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i cant see the Ac or Jc, folding to any bets given most of there stack sizes.

You got a point on that, just realized one villain has $4.60 left. I'd still lead out though.
 
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I lead for ~$2.25. Didnt vote cause i couldnt. Re-evaluate after any calls reraises.
 
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The pot is about $4, I'd lead out with a pot sized bet and go from there. What are the likely holdings of everyone? Pocket pairs, and strong aces, which you have both of those beat. The only one I'm worried about is Hitdark because of his stack size, if he folds, I push on the turn if it's not a club.
 
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A $3- $4 bet will usually take this down if no one has either made their flush or is holding the A of clubs. If I am raised, I fold.
 
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Youd get raised by tons of hands here. if original raiser has Ak with ace of clubs, hes probably raising you if you lead out. I dont think its that clear that you should fold to a raise. Id have 2 see raise+reraise before i think about folding it.

And even gettinc calls arent necessarily scary.

Jc could call this, as well KQ and KJ And KT if they made two pairs.

A made flush is a concern being that there are two blinds in there that could have anything, but i wont put any raise by Original raiser or call by the blinds on flushes right away.
 
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A $3- $4 bet will usually take this down if no one has either made their flush or is holding the A of clubs. If I am raised, I fold.


I agree - I would have bet the pot.
 
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I voted for $1.75 only because it was the highest bet. I would bet more than $1.75. You don't want to check and give THREE players a free card. You got to get some of the players out of the pot. A pot sized bet should do the job.
 
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For me there is two choices in this position either bet the pot or check and call up $2. Betting the pot is most likely to happen in anyone positions because you want/hope your opponent doesn't have a flush draw and make them fold it. Also if you check and call up to $2 your likely in good shape unless there is another one hits either on the turn or river.
 
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You have to bet here. I choose $1.00. .75 would do. You need to represent the flush. At worst you're beat, and won't have the stress of having to wonder if someone else flopped gold, they will tell you.....

Most folks freeze at a flush flop, so timidity here is futile. the $1.00 bet represents something like a small flush at least. It is a blocking bet. Only the royal or pretty close relatives will be calling on you here.
 
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Bet the pot or a little higher. There are 3 other players so at least 1 or 2 of them have a club and you want to make them make a mistake if they are drawing. Of course you have to worry about someone having 2 clubs but it's more likely for someone to have one club than 2 so you have to raise. A bet of $2 or less will give proper odds to call with one club so you would be making the mistake not them.

I would probably bet $5 here and push the turn if it's not a club. There are alot of hands that will call you here that you have beat including draws, 2 pairs, sets, TPTK so go ahead and press the action. One player would be different but here there are 4.

If 2 or 3 call and a club comes on the turn then its check/fold.
 
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