The turn

6NL at luckyace poker.

I'm in the BB with 10hJh, a player in MP1 raises it to 3x, the sb calls as do i.

The flop was

Jd 8d 6d

I bet pot and they both call. The tables at this site play very loose, mostly calling stations and maniacs so far. So i felt they could be on a wide range..even AK,AQ..almost anything. As was proven at the SD.

The turn is a Td

Good and bad, it makes me two pair but also puts up a scarey board. How would you proceed on the turn. Is this a wa/wb situation? Do you bet the turn to defend your hand with the likelyhood taht one of them holds a diamond or some type of draw. Anyways, i overlooked that the the sb was short stacked. I bet $1.25 into a pot of $1.50 and the sb is allin for $2.20 and turns over 97.

Knowing the hold cards, its easy for me to say check the turn and then call his value bet. But i am i right to think..that vs loose, fishy players that 75% of the time my JT is good on the turn and therefore the bet is fine? I still think i should have checked, as if they were on at draw it was at best a 2-1 shot. So maybe that was the better line to take.

I'm trying to work on wa/wb and pot control atm to make my decisions easier on later streets. This might be a example, where i fell back into old habits...obviously, if i check..i can then just call a value bet on a the river. For a smaller loss.

Any thoughts? thanks

Betting turn is bad on a table full of loose maniacs, check/fold it.

This is a "get to showdown while putting the minimum amount of money in the pot possible" hand. And by minimum, I mean zero. Check.

What is calling a bet that you beat?

well, i had 2pair and this player were bluffing, stacking with anything. So even though, the call looks terrible. I was getting around 4-1 on his all in and i had a few outs to a full house and it wouldn't have suprised me if this player had pushed with a draw. As i'd see him go all in PF with hands like K9, 77 etc.

So you think betting the flop with top pair is a bad move? i'll agree with u on the turn. But on the flop, i have to believe i've got a good chance of having the best hand. I find it unlikely, that one of them has QQ+

lol

Obviously bet the flop.

If i put their ranges into poker shove. Say the player in MP1 had a range of 12% and the guy on the button random. As he did call with 97o my equity on the turn is 62%. It wasn't like i was betting the turn with Ahigh, TPTK.

k Thanks. Ur right though, the check was alot better.

Michelle5000 said:

If i put their ranges into poker shove. Say the player in MP1 had a range of 12% and the guy on the button random. As he did call with 97o my equity on the turn is 62%. It wasn't like i was betting the turn with Ahigh, TPTK.

k Thanks. Ur right though, the check was alot better.

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Your equity seems higher against that hand because there is a large chance of a tie. And when I p-stove that, I get your equity in the pot as 19%. Not exactly worth betting.

OMFG..sorry c9. No wonder...ahah i just re-read my initial post.. the board was Js..Td 8d 6d and not Jd 8d 6d Td. So there wasn't a 4d on board.

My mistake, i'm sorry. Of all the mistakes, i write the hand down wrong lol. When you said 'And by minimum, I mean zero. Check' i shoudl have reflected on it and thought something was up. Sorry for being so slow.

Forget the poker..i should learn to post hand histories from lucky or double check the hand when i write it down Well, if i believe my Equity is 60% then i was correct bet it. I've never really looked into Equity being a new player. But i assume that even if your a 55-45%dog..then your right to bet any street. As your betting for value. My equity in reality would have been less..as the guy on the wide range..woudln't have called the flop bet with no type of hand. Still even if i was 40/30/30..the bet woudl have been fine. I'm assuming.

I'll look into this..i should spend more time away from the tables to get a greater understanding.