Trip Jacks. What would you have done here?

scphillips87

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I'm looking for some feedback and analysis. I'm Nicotine87 and was wondering if I got too greedy, or if you guys think this just wasn't my day for cards.

full tilt poker Game #10122552551: Table Falcon (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:10:11 ET - 2009/01/18
Seat 1: Empire37 ($5.45)
Seat 2: elkanker ($10.45)
Seat 3: nesrOrGER ($11.50)
Seat 4: dk14487 ($5.40)
Seat 5: McRacker ($5)
Seat 6: Nicotine87 ($4.40)
Nicotine87 posts the small blind of $0.05
Empire37 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Nicotine87 [Jd Js]
elkanker has 15 seconds left to act
elkanker calls $0.10
nesrOrGER folds
dk14487 calls $0.10
McRacker calls $0.10
Nicotine87 raises to $0.60
Empire37 folds
elkanker calls $0.50
dk14487 folds
McRacker calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Jh 2c 8d]
Nicotine87 checks
elkanker checks
McRacker checks
*** TURN *** [Jh 2c 8d] [As]
Nicotine87 checks
elkanker bets $0.10
McRacker calls $0.10
Nicotine87 calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [Jh 2c 8d As] [3s]
Nicotine87 has 15 seconds left to act
Nicotine87 bets $0.80
elkanker raises to $4.70
McRacker calls $4.30, and is all in
Nicotine87 calls $2.90, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $0.40 returned to elkanker
*** SHOW DOWN ***
elkanker shows [5h 4s] a straight, Five high
McRacker shows [3h Ad] two pair, Aces and Threes
elkanker wins the side pot ($1.05) with a straight, Five high
Nicotine87 mucks
elkanker wins the main pot ($12.10) with a straight, Five high
McRacker adds $7
Nicotine87 adds $5
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.60 Main pot $13.40. Side pot $1.20. | Rake $1.45
Board: [Jh 2c 8d As 3s]
Seat 1: Empire37 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: elkanker showed [5h 4s] and won ($13.15) with a straight, Five high
Seat 3: nesrOrGER didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: dk14487 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: McRacker (button) showed [3h Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 6: Nicotine87 (small blind) mucked [Jd Js] - three of a kind, Jacks

Honestly, never in a million years expected the 5-4 offsuit. It just came outta nowhere.
 
scphillips87

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I see it now, the turn bet of .10 cents was pretty lame. I guess I wasn't expecting a call of 5-4 offsuit with my 6xbb raise.
 
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Bet the flop. Raising 6xBB over limpers and then checking the flop is fishy and/or suspicious.

Bet .75 on the flop.
Bet pot on the turn (the ace either helps them or they're not putting any money in).
Shove river
 
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I'm looking for some feedback and analysis. I'm Nicotine87 and was wondering if I got too greedy, or if you guys think this just wasn't my day for cards.

Full Tilt Poker Game #10122552551: Table Falcon (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:10:11 ET - 2009/01/18
Seat 1: Empire37 ($5.45)
Seat 2: elkanker ($10.45)
Seat 3: nesrOrGER ($11.50)
Seat 4: dk14487 ($5.40)
Seat 5: McRacker ($5)
Seat 6: Nicotine87 ($4.40)
Nicotine87 posts the small blind of $0.05
Empire37 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Nicotine87 [Jd Js]
elkanker has 15 seconds left to act
elkanker calls $0.10
nesrOrGER folds
dk14487 calls $0.10
McRacker calls $0.10
Nicotine87 raises to $0.60
Empire37 folds
elkanker calls $0.50
dk14487 folds
McRacker calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Jh 2c 8d]
Nicotine87 checks - At least put in a bet here to build the pot, like 1/3-1/2 pot IMO, at this level, most players will call up to half the pot with bottom pair. This is where you went wrong IMO. FPS(Fancy Play Syndrome) I think
elkanker checks
McRacker checks
*** TURN *** [Jh 2c 8d] A♠
Nicotine87 checks
elkanker bets $0.10
McRacker calls $0.10
Nicotine87 calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [Jh 2c 8d As] 3♠
Nicotine87 has 15 seconds left to act
Nicotine87 bets $0.80
elkanker raises to $4.70
McRacker calls $4.30, and is all in
Nicotine87 calls $2.90, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $0.40 returned to elkanker
*** SHOW DOWN ***
elkanker shows [5h 4s] a straight, Five high
McRacker shows [3h Ad] two pair, Aces and Threes
elkanker wins the side pot ($1.05) with a straight, Five high
Nicotine87 mucks
elkanker wins the main pot ($12.10) with a straight, Five high
McRacker adds $7
Nicotine87 adds $5
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.60 Main pot $13.40. Side pot $1.20. | Rake $1.45
Board: [Jh 2c 8d As 3s]
Seat 1: Empire37 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: elkanker showed [5h 4s] and won ($13.15) with a straight, Five high
Seat 3: nesrOrGER didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: dk14487 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: McRacker (button) showed [3h Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 6: Nicotine87 (small blind) mucked [Jd Js] - three of a kind, Jacks

Honestly, never in a million years expected the 5-4 offsuit. It just came outta nowhere.
Look to red.
 
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Yeah, I think you need to bet the flop, like the others said. Even so, the play of your two opponents was pretty weird. The one with the straight was completely lucky to beat you, while the other player had about as small a chance. You just got unlucky, but at least make them pay more to draw out on you, but not too much. A call of any amount you bet by them would be a mistake.
 
scphillips87

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Alright cool, thanks for the ideas. Yeah I just wanted to sucker them in, I was giving them more credit than they deserved. I wanted that ace to fall on the turn so bad, and was figuring that they must've called with something respectable and pushed the ace. Yeah, a little much FPS, I agree with you shinedown.
 
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