TPWK versus raise by LAG player

I'm uberdooba. HonestToGod is loose/aggressive, plays any old junk like 92o and has already been caught bluffing a couple of times. I don't have a read on cassysue.

pokerstars Game #6676986463: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2006/10/18 - 07:48:59 (ET)
Table 'Polydoros' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: queenB99 ($2.77 in chips)
Seat 4: uberdooba ($2.11 in chips)
Seat 5: HonestToGod ($1.83 in chips)
Seat 8: cassysue ($1.28 in chips)
uberdooba: posts small blind $0.01
HonestToGod: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to uberdooba [7h Ac]
cassysue: calls $0.02
queenB99: folds
uberdooba: calls $0.01
HonestToGod: checks
*** FLOP *** [8h 5d Ah]
uberdooba: bets $0.06
HonestToGod: raises $0.06 to $0.12

What would you do here?

I'd pay 12 cents to see a monkey make love to a football.

first off, I would not have been in the hand with A-rag, and even if I had been in the hand, it would have been an instant fold, even if he does bluff alot there is a chance that he may have caught two pair on the flop, just let it go .Even in micro-limits you have to play good poker and keeping A-rag is not good poker, but then again that's why you joined the forum, to learn how to play good poker.
let us know how the hand turned out.

mrsnake3695 said:

I'd pay 12 cents to see a monkey make love to a football.

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LMFAO

Here's the rest of the hand:

cassysue: folds
uberdooba: calls $0.06
*** TURN *** [8h 5d Ah] [Kd]
uberdooba: bets $0.20
HonestToGod: calls $0.20
*** RIVER *** [8h 5d Ah Kd] [Qd]
uberdooba: bets $0.30
HonestToGod: calls $0.30
*** SHOW DOWN ***
uberdooba: shows [7h Ac] (a pair of Aces)
HonestToGod: shows [Ad Jc] (a pair of Aces - King+Queen+Jack kicker)
HonestToGod collected $1.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.30 | Rake $0.05
Board [8h 5d Ah Kd Qd]
Seat 3: queenB99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: uberdooba (small blind) showed [7h Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: HonestToGod (big blind) showed [Ad Jc] and won ($1.25) with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: cassysue folded on the Flop

I thought about folding it pre-flop but is it really right to fold when there are just 4 people at the table and I only have to call $.01 more? (I know it cost me a lot more than that, but hindsight is 20/20).

https://www.cardschat.com/showthread.php?t=72988, this may clarify what I'm trying to say.

shinedown.45 said:

first off, I would not have been in the hand with A-rag,

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With only 4 at the table, A7 is a decent starting hand.

amyval81 said:

I thought about folding it pre-flop but is it really right to fold when there are just 4 people at the table and I only have to call $.01 more? (I know it cost me a lot more than that, but hindsight is 20/20).

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4-handed, I'd be raising it most of the time. You have to loosen up your starting hand requirements to make up for the blinds hitting you so frequently.

Not only that, but you'd get more info on your opponent's hand and you could have lost less on this hand knowing he's got a bigger ace than yours, and you could have dumped your hand earlier.

You always have to be aware that a raise typically means they have better than just top pair. Even if it only means top pair in this hand, you are sunk without a decent kicker. Fold and save yourself a few cents. If you are trying to learn, then assume that this is $1/$2. Again, seeing the flop for half the BB isn't so bad. With A-rag, your betting the pot was too much, half the pot is fine here. When you are raised, fold. If no one else had an A, you would have taken the pot down.

Just thought I'd add this since it applies: another thing to keep in mind is that a minimum reraise almost always means strength, especially from a weak player (aka most people at 0.01/0.02)

Ok, thanks for letting me know A7 is decent 4-handed and I'm at least not 100% donk here

I think my read on this guy actually hurt me here. If it was against someone else and they had raised after my bet I would have folded, but this guy was pissing me off and I was tired of being pushed around. Bad call I know now. At least I won my money back by the time he left the table

amyval81 said:

this guy was pissing me off and I was tired of being pushed around

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TILT TILT TILT TILT!!!!

Worst thing you can do!!! If you had AA, then fine, but not with A7, even if it was heads up.

mrsnake3695 said:

I'd pay 12 cents to see a monkey make love to a football.

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too funny

amyval81 said:

I'm uberdooba. HonestToGod is loose/aggressive, plays any old junk like 92o and has already been caught bluffing a couple of times. I don't have a read on cassysue.

PokerStars Game #6676986463: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2006/10/18 - 07:48:59 (ET)
Table 'Polydoros' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: queenB99 ($2.77 in chips)
Seat 4: uberdooba ($2.11 in chips)
Seat 5: HonestToGod ($1.83 in chips)
Seat 8: cassysue ($1.28 in chips)
uberdooba: posts small blind $0.01
HonestToGod: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to uberdooba [7h Ac]
cassysue: calls $0.02
queenB99: folds
uberdooba: calls $0.01
HonestToGod: checks

*** FLOP *** [8h 5d Ah]
uberdooba: bets $0.06
HonestToGod: raises $0.06 to $0.12

What would you do here?

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I run bluffs a couple of times early on in a sng/cash table purely for the chance of getting caught out. Then when I get a premium hand I normally get a couple more callers and make a killing. Be careful with the bluffers, they too can get premium hands.
As for your hand, ignoring whether its a fold PF or not. I think you done right to bet on the flop, for information, thats how I would play it. But the information came back that he did have a hand. I would guess(I know its there in the HH!) he had an Ace with maybe a higher kicker. So, I'd call his raise then see what happened on the turn. You might have paired your kicker and taken him down. The turn he bets big, so now I'm thinking, fold here and wait for a bigger hand. Patience is key in poker.

The turn he bets big

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Actually I'm the one who bet big on the turn <--at myself

amyval81 said:

Actually I'm the one who bet big on the turn <--at myself

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sorry my fault. i would have let him bet, to see where u were.

Folding pre-flop would be the worst thing you could do. NL is all about implied odds. You're in the small blind, unraised pot, so I'd at least call here with any two cards, possibly raise with A7.

I'd call the raise on the flop, if he's LAG like you say. But then you have to check to him on the turn so long as the turn doesn't help you. If he's betting at you here then you have to think he has an Ace rather than a flush draw, although I might pay him off depending on how big he bets. Pretty borderline, because there are only 4 Aces that you beat and 7 that you don't, although his failure to raise pre-flop might fool me into thinking I had the best hand. Weigh up the cost to you to call divided by the amount in the pot, and compare to what you think your chances are of winning the hand. E.g. if someone bets the pot on the river, you have to think you have a less than 33% chance that you're ahead to fold it.