Originally Posted by ChuckTs
It's because we have the limpers; nothing to do with the hand. And no, I don't particularly want a call with AK, but I don't mind one. It's not quite strong enough to make suck bets when you haven't yet improved to at least a pair.
Anyways if you open for 40c with no limpers behind you, you give anyone out of the blinds a 1.375:1 price on their money, as well as a 1.57:1 and 1.83:1 price for the SB and BB respectively.
If you open for 40c when you have two limpers behind you for example, you give a non-blind player a 1.67:1 price, the SB a 2.14:1 price, and the BB (or one of the limpers) a 2.5:1 price on their money, which is too good.
In regards to the specific hands, I'm opening for exactly the same amount every time: 3BB+1BB per limper. Raising certain amounts with certain hands only reveals the strength of your hand to observant players.
Thanks for the explanation, but I do want to comment on the theory that you should open for the exact same amount regardless of your hand.
1. At $10NL I don't feel there are very many observant people to notice which hands I'm raising more with or less with.
2. Got this part from Sklansky (and someone else, forget who)'s "NLHE Theory and Practice"
Basically in general you want to make the correct play most of the time. This means betting when you have the best hand, giving just bad enough odds
that draws can't call profitably but are tempted to draw without odds, and basically play every hand as if you could see the opponent's hand.
But if you do that, people will see through you. If you never bluff, people simply fold to your bets unless they have a good hand. So you need to mix it up. Same thing preflop. Here's the quote from the book.
"Lots of no limit teachers give a rather peculiar piece of advice. They recommend that you always make the same size raises, no matter what hand you hold. Whether you have KK or 78s raise the same amount every time. They may tell you to alter your raise size based on your position. Or to alter it based on the number of limpers. But never to alter it based on what's in your hand.
Their rationale is that you can betray information about the quality of your holding by raising different amounts. So, to keep your opponents guessing, always raise the same amount. This advice strikes us like cutting off your leg to cure your athlete's foot. Sure, you don't want to give away extra information through your raise sizes. And sure, some players do manage to do just that. But, as we saw in the last chapter, you can raise preflop for a variety of reasons, and some of those reasons prefer differently-sized raises. If you artificially limit your options to avoid giving away information, you soften up your entire preflop strategy.
Embrace it. Different hands in different situations call for differently-sized raises. If you are worried about giving away information, you need only to mix up your play occasionally. For instance, say you want to raise 6x the blind. Every so often, raise only 3x instead. And vice versa - raise 6x occasionally when you would normally raise 3x. Mathematically, you can calculate an optimal percentage of the time to swap your plays. But, in practice, that isn't necessary. Just do it often enough so your opponents know you might be mixing things up, and they have significant doubt about whether you hold a 3x hand or a 6x hand. (Or, rather, so that they should have significant doubt. Some players seem to think they are clairvoyant and are happy to "put you on a hand," no matter how suspect their evidence might be. Your job is just to make sure their evidence is sufficiently suspect.)"
"Big raises make big pots. Small raises (and no raises) make small pots"